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| # 07:09:52 | bhundven|afk | snappy: ? |
| # 07:10:13 | bhundven|afk | do you happen to be using the linaro gcc/binutils? |
| # 07:11:39 | bhundven|afk | is now known as: bhundven |
| # 07:12:15 | snappy | bhundven: nay |
| # 07:13:36 | bhundven | https://wiki.linaro.org/WorkingGroups/ToolChain |
| # 07:13:53 | bhundven | you can enable it in crosstool-ng by enabling CT_EXPERIMENTAL |
| # 07:14:12 | bhundven | it's really not that experimental |
| # 07:14:18 | bhundven | just in crosstool-ng |
| # 07:14:48 | bhundven | the linaro stuff is supposed to improve stability and performance on arm |
| # 07:14:53 | snappy | interesting; i'll certainly give it a shot |
| # 07:15:48 | bhundven | let us know if you have problems. I'm hopeing we can turn off experimental on this feature. |
| # 07:16:11 | bhundven | and just do experimental for new versions |
| # 07:16:32 | bhundven | anyways, cheers ;) |
| # 07:19:27 | y_morin | bhundven: hello! If a person report that an experimental options does indeed work reliably, then that person can send a patch removing the 'depends on EXPERIMENTAL' ;-) |
| # 07:19:42 | bhundven | I have an armv5 |
| # 07:20:11 | bhundven | but I'd like to see how armv7 does, and since he has an armv7-A, if he has any problems there. |
| # 07:20:31 | bhundven | so many arm variants |
| # 07:21:14 | y_morin | bhundven: don't tell me... |
| # 07:21:40 | bhundven | finishes his preach to the choir |
| # 07:22:04 | y_morin | listens cheerfuly |
| # 07:22:11 | bhundven | how ya been? |
| # 07:22:43 | y_morin | bhundven: been on holiday for about 2 weeks now, still 2 to go! Life's wonderful ! :-) |
| # 07:22:57 | bhundven | great! uh... you still on vacation?!? |
| # 07:23:07 | bhundven | er, holiday |
| # 07:23:51 | kos_tom | y_morin, oh, you're on holidays, great! |
| # 07:23:51 | bhundven | well, I hope you enjoy! |
| # 07:25:06 | y_morin | bhundven: well, I do enjoy! Up at 8:00 because of the guys cutting down the hedge... |
| # 07:25:27 | bhundven | ah |
| # 07:25:27 | y_morin | kos_tom: Oh, sounds like work incoming... |
| # 07:26:22 | y_morin | bhundven: how's it been on your side? |
| # 07:27:33 | bhundven | y_morin: busy, to say the least. |
| # 07:27:40 | y_morin | kos_tom: could you and Jacmet get a list of recriminations against crosstool-NG, so I can prepare a defense line for the dev-day... |
| # 07:28:48 | bhundven | convinced work last week to let me clean up some of our u-boot code so I can push some of our boards upstream |
| # 07:28:55 | kos_tom | y_morin, from a Buildroot perspective, I don't personally have recriminations. |
| # 07:29:05 | bhundven | pulls out he hedge trimmers |
| # 07:29:11 | y_morin | bhundven: yes, good boss! :-) |
| # 07:29:49 | bhundven | wish we could move our ixp435 board from redboot to u-boot... I dislike ecos |
| # 07:29:50 | kos_tom | y_morin, from a developer perspective, even with the saved states I found it a bit painful to debug crosstool-ng but maybe it's because I'm not use to the ct-ng internals. And also, hg is a big pain. |
| # 07:30:13 | bhundven | but it has it's uses... |
| # 07:30:39 | bhundven | like making nvidia ethernet devices that can get hacked... |
| # 07:30:56 | y_morin | bhundven: what? |
| # 07:31:49 | bhundven | ah, I can't find the article |
| # 07:32:18 | bhundven | these guys figured out how to hack this ethernet firmware from the local broadcast domain |
| # 07:32:31 | bhundven | and put up their own firmware with ssh enabled |
| # 07:32:34 | bhundven | lol |
| # 07:32:36 | y_morin | kos_tom: steps is not optimal, indeed. What's the issue you are faciong? For the second part, I'm not speaking about hg yet again... ;-) |
| # 07:33:08 | kos_tom | y_morin, well I don't have a specific issue, I found it rather complicated to restart the build in the middle, and found that many times I had to clean up things completely and restart. |
| # 07:33:13 | y_morin | bhundven: how, I missed your redboot->uboot line above... |
| # 07:33:36 | kos_tom | for example, "make clean" doesn't clean enough things in my opinion, I many times had to do "cp .config myconfig ; make distclean ; cp myconfig .config" |
| # 07:34:13 | y_morin | kos_tom: what should 'clean' clean better? |
| # 07:34:17 | bhundven | hg status? |
| # 07:34:52 | y_morin | bhundven: generated files are hgignored. |
| # 07:35:02 | bhundven | bleh, right. |
| # 07:35:09 | kos_tom | y_morin, everything but the configuration file ? :) |
| # 07:35:24 | bhundven | check .hgignore |
| # 07:35:41 | y_morin | kos_tom: sensible, indeed. |
| # 07:36:10 | y_morin | kos_tom: did your read my post on the list about reworking the installation procedure? |
| # 07:37:46 | y_morin | bhundven: same question as ^^^^^ |
| # 07:38:03 | kos_tom | y_morin, yes, I have seen. I always use the --local thing so I don't have a real opinion. |
| # 07:38:06 | bhundven | dude, it looks good to me. maybe post a mq for testing |
| # 07:38:23 | y_morin | kos_tom: OK. |
| # 07:38:32 | kos_tom | y_morin, I tried to use the normal installation, but for some reason, the installation process removed the scripts/ directory from the source directory. |
| # 07:39:09 | y_morin | bhundven: oh, I did not yet start actualy working on this, in case people did object in the end... |
| # 07:39:50 | y_morin | kos_tom: argh. Can you still reproduce? |
| # 07:40:53 | kos_tom | y_morin, I haven't tried to reproduce. |
| # 07:41:03 | bhundven | I'm on debian sid: |
| # 07:41:04 | bhundven | bryan@flambe:~/crosstool-ng$ ls |
| # 07:41:04 | bhundven | config configure contrib COPYING ct-ng ct-ng.comp ct-ng.in docs kconfig LICENSES licenses.d Makefile Makefile.in patches paths.mk README samples scripts steps.mk TODO |
| # 07:41:08 | bhundven | bryan@flambe:~/crosstool-ng$ make install 2>&1 > /dev/null |
| # 07:41:11 | bhundven | bryan@flambe:~/crosstool-ng$ ls |
| # 07:41:12 | kos_tom | y_morin, if you want to have a look, my patches for SH2A are at http://free-electrons.com/~thomas/pub/ctng-sh2a/. I will do a proper posting some day. |
| # 07:41:13 | bhundven | config configure contrib COPYING ct-ng ct-ng.comp ct-ng.in docs kconfig LICENSES licenses.d Makefile Makefile.in patches paths.mk README samples scripts steps.mk TODO |
| # 07:41:26 | bhundven | and it installed to the directory in my prefix |
| # 07:41:32 | bhundven | from a fresh checkout |
| # 07:41:35 | kos_tom | bhundven, I guess it's me that did something wrong. |
| # 07:41:36 | bhundven | er, clone |
| # 07:41:52 | kos_tom | bhundven, note that I had some local modifications, so it wasn't from a fresh clone. |
| # 07:41:59 | bhundven | ok |
| # 07:42:11 | y_morin | bhundven: works here to, but if it breaks on kos_tom's, I'd like to know how to fix it. |
| # 07:42:15 | kos_tom | y_morin, there are nasty things in my patches. One nasty thing in elf2flt and one nasty additional symlink in the sysroot. |
| # 07:42:34 | bhundven | y_morin: indeed! |
| # 07:42:38 | y_morin | kos_tom: well, nasty patches are better than no patches, that makes a starting point! :-) |
| # 07:42:49 | bhundven | trust, but verify ;) |
| # 07:42:54 | kos_tom | y_morin, the provided config file generates a toolchain with C and C++ support. The C support is capable of building a bootable kernel, but the C++ support can't even generate a binary (unresolved symbol _fpscr_values) |
| # 07:43:50 | kos_tom | y_morin, I have a board with a SH2A processor here, and I was supposed to use it for a project, but the toolchain/Linux support is so crappy that we will instead use an ARM AT91 platform for the project. Less fun, but much quicker to set up. |
| # 07:44:10 | y_morin | kos_tom: I'll get the patches for later analysis... |
| # 07:44:25 | y_morin | kos_tom: sh2a can run linux, right? |
| # 07:44:34 | kos_tom | y_morin, yes, it runs Linux. |
| # 07:44:54 | kos_tom | the patches themselves are very short. |
| # 07:46:11 | y_morin | kos_tom: I have a bunch of things to do IRL this morning, now that I got fully awaken by the nice sound of the chainsaws... So I'll queue your patches for later in the afternoon... |
| # 07:46:39 | bhundven | kos_tom & y_morin: lemme know if you need any testing |
| # 07:46:51 | y_morin | bhundven: thx! |
| # 07:46:58 | bhundven | happy to help in any way I can |
| # 07:51:13 | kos_tom | y_morin, sure no pb, nothing urgent. |
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