# Format for this file: # Epoch Channel Nickname Action Message # # All separated with a single space, empty values are replaced with a dash '-' # except messages which are kept empty. # Lines starting with '#' are comments; comments are not allowed except as the only content of the line # 1314841017 #crosstool-ng Buglouse join 1314852611 - mnt_real quit Remote host closed the connection 1314854347 - Buglouse quit Ping timeout: 252 seconds 1314854809 #crosstool-ng tor join 1314855619 - kos_tom quit Quit: Leaving 1314857905 - Tenacious-Techhu quit Quit: Page closed 1314858224 #crosstool-ng y_morin join 1314859923 #crosstool-ng kos_tom join 1314860992 #crosstool-ng bhundven|afk say snappy: ? 1314861013 #crosstool-ng bhundven|afk say do you happen to be using the linaro gcc/binutils? 1314861099 - bhundven|afk nick bhundven 1314861135 #crosstool-ng snappy say bhundven: nay 1314861216 #crosstool-ng bhundven say https://wiki.linaro.org/WorkingGroups/ToolChain 1314861233 #crosstool-ng bhundven say you can enable it in crosstool-ng by enabling CT_EXPERIMENTAL 1314861252 #crosstool-ng bhundven say it's really not that experimental 1314861258 #crosstool-ng bhundven say just in crosstool-ng 1314861288 #crosstool-ng bhundven say the linaro stuff is supposed to improve stability and performance on arm 1314861293 #crosstool-ng snappy say interesting; i'll certainly give it a shot 1314861348 #crosstool-ng bhundven say let us know if you have problems. I'm hopeing we can turn off experimental on this feature. 1314861371 #crosstool-ng bhundven say and just do experimental for new versions 1314861392 #crosstool-ng bhundven say anyways, cheers ;) 1314861567 #crosstool-ng y_morin say bhundven: hello! If a person report that an experimental options does indeed work reliably, then that person can send a patch removing the 'depends on EXPERIMENTAL' ;-) 1314861582 #crosstool-ng bhundven say I have an armv5 1314861611 #crosstool-ng bhundven say but I'd like to see how armv7 does, and since he has an armv7-A, if he has any problems there. 1314861631 #crosstool-ng bhundven say so many arm variants 1314861674 #crosstool-ng y_morin say bhundven: don't tell me... 1314861700 #crosstool-ng bhundven tell finishes his preach to the choir 1314861724 #crosstool-ng y_morin tell listens cheerfuly 1314861731 #crosstool-ng bhundven say how ya been? 1314861763 #crosstool-ng y_morin say bhundven: been on holiday for about 2 weeks now, still 2 to go! Life's wonderful ! :-) 1314861777 #crosstool-ng bhundven say great! uh... you still on vacation?!? 1314861787 #crosstool-ng bhundven say er, holiday 1314861831 #crosstool-ng kos_tom say y_morin, oh, you're on holidays, great! 1314861831 #crosstool-ng bhundven say well, I hope you enjoy! 1314861906 #crosstool-ng y_morin say bhundven: well, I do enjoy! Up at 8:00 because of the guys cutting down the hedge... 1314861927 #crosstool-ng bhundven say ah 1314861927 #crosstool-ng y_morin say kos_tom: Oh, sounds like work incoming... 1314861982 #crosstool-ng y_morin say bhundven: how's it been on your side? 1314862053 #crosstool-ng bhundven say y_morin: busy, to say the least. 1314862060 #crosstool-ng y_morin say kos_tom: could you and Jacmet get a list of recriminations against crosstool-NG, so I can prepare a defense line for the dev-day... 1314862128 #crosstool-ng bhundven say convinced work last week to let me clean up some of our u-boot code so I can push some of our boards upstream 1314862135 #crosstool-ng kos_tom say y_morin, from a Buildroot perspective, I don't personally have recriminations. 1314862145 #crosstool-ng bhundven tell pulls out he hedge trimmers 1314862151 #crosstool-ng y_morin say bhundven: yes, good boss! :-) 1314862189 #crosstool-ng bhundven say wish we could move our ixp435 board from redboot to u-boot... I dislike ecos 1314862190 #crosstool-ng kos_tom say y_morin, from a developer perspective, even with the saved states I found it a bit painful to debug crosstool-ng but maybe it's because I'm not use to the ct-ng internals. And also, hg is a big pain. 1314862213 #crosstool-ng bhundven say but it has it's uses... 1314862239 #crosstool-ng bhundven say like making nvidia ethernet devices that can get hacked... 1314862256 #crosstool-ng y_morin say bhundven: what? 1314862309 #crosstool-ng bhundven say ah, I can't find the article 1314862338 #crosstool-ng bhundven say these guys figured out how to hack this ethernet firmware from the local broadcast domain 1314862351 #crosstool-ng bhundven say and put up their own firmware with ssh enabled 1314862354 #crosstool-ng bhundven say lol 1314862356 #crosstool-ng y_morin say kos_tom: steps is not optimal, indeed. What's the issue you are faciong? For the second part, I'm not speaking about hg yet again... ;-) 1314862388 #crosstool-ng kos_tom say y_morin, well I don't have a specific issue, I found it rather complicated to restart the build in the middle, and found that many times I had to clean up things completely and restart. 1314862393 #crosstool-ng y_morin say bhundven: how, I missed your redboot->uboot line above... 1314862416 #crosstool-ng kos_tom say for example, "make clean" doesn't clean enough things in my opinion, I many times had to do "cp .config myconfig ; make distclean ; cp myconfig .config" 1314862453 #crosstool-ng y_morin say kos_tom: what should 'clean' clean better? 1314862457 #crosstool-ng bhundven say hg status? 1314862492 #crosstool-ng y_morin say bhundven: generated files are hgignored. 1314862502 #crosstool-ng bhundven say bleh, right. 1314862509 #crosstool-ng kos_tom say y_morin, everything but the configuration file ? :) 1314862524 #crosstool-ng bhundven say check .hgignore 1314862541 #crosstool-ng y_morin say kos_tom: sensible, indeed. 1314862570 #crosstool-ng y_morin say kos_tom: did your read my post on the list about reworking the installation procedure? 1314862666 #crosstool-ng y_morin say bhundven: same question as ^^^^^ 1314862683 #crosstool-ng kos_tom say y_morin, yes, I have seen. I always use the --local thing so I don't have a real opinion. 1314862686 #crosstool-ng bhundven say dude, it looks good to me. maybe post a mq for testing 1314862703 #crosstool-ng y_morin say kos_tom: OK. 1314862712 #crosstool-ng kos_tom say y_morin, I tried to use the normal installation, but for some reason, the installation process removed the scripts/ directory from the source directory. 1314862749 #crosstool-ng y_morin say bhundven: oh, I did not yet start actualy working on this, in case people did object in the end... 1314862790 #crosstool-ng y_morin say kos_tom: argh. Can you still reproduce? 1314862853 #crosstool-ng kos_tom say y_morin, I haven't tried to reproduce. 1314862863 #crosstool-ng bhundven say I'm on debian sid: 1314862864 #crosstool-ng bhundven say bryan@flambe:~/crosstool-ng$ ls 1314862864 #crosstool-ng bhundven say config configure contrib COPYING ct-ng ct-ng.comp ct-ng.in docs kconfig LICENSES licenses.d Makefile Makefile.in patches paths.mk README samples scripts steps.mk TODO 1314862868 #crosstool-ng bhundven say bryan@flambe:~/crosstool-ng$ make install 2>&1 > /dev/null 1314862871 #crosstool-ng bhundven say bryan@flambe:~/crosstool-ng$ ls 1314862872 #crosstool-ng kos_tom say y_morin, if you want to have a look, my patches for SH2A are at http://free-electrons.com/~thomas/pub/ctng-sh2a/. I will do a proper posting some day. 1314862873 #crosstool-ng bhundven say config configure contrib COPYING ct-ng ct-ng.comp ct-ng.in docs kconfig LICENSES licenses.d Makefile Makefile.in patches paths.mk README samples scripts steps.mk TODO 1314862886 #crosstool-ng bhundven say and it installed to the directory in my prefix 1314862892 #crosstool-ng bhundven say from a fresh checkout 1314862895 #crosstool-ng kos_tom say bhundven, I guess it's me that did something wrong. 1314862896 #crosstool-ng bhundven say er, clone 1314862912 #crosstool-ng kos_tom say bhundven, note that I had some local modifications, so it wasn't from a fresh clone. 1314862919 #crosstool-ng bhundven say ok 1314862931 #crosstool-ng y_morin say bhundven: works here to, but if it breaks on kos_tom's, I'd like to know how to fix it. 1314862935 #crosstool-ng kos_tom say y_morin, there are nasty things in my patches. One nasty thing in elf2flt and one nasty additional symlink in the sysroot. 1314862954 #crosstool-ng bhundven say y_morin: indeed! 1314862958 #crosstool-ng y_morin say kos_tom: well, nasty patches are better than no patches, that makes a starting point! :-) 1314862969 #crosstool-ng bhundven say trust, but verify ;) 1314862974 #crosstool-ng kos_tom say y_morin, the provided config file generates a toolchain with C and C++ support. The C support is capable of building a bootable kernel, but the C++ support can't even generate a binary (unresolved symbol _fpscr_values) 1314863030 #crosstool-ng kos_tom say y_morin, I have a board with a SH2A processor here, and I was supposed to use it for a project, but the toolchain/Linux support is so crappy that we will instead use an ARM AT91 platform for the project. Less fun, but much quicker to set up. 1314863050 #crosstool-ng y_morin say kos_tom: I'll get the patches for later analysis... 1314863065 #crosstool-ng y_morin say kos_tom: sh2a can run linux, right? 1314863074 #crosstool-ng kos_tom say y_morin, yes, it runs Linux. 1314863094 #crosstool-ng kos_tom say the patches themselves are very short. 1314863171 #crosstool-ng y_morin say kos_tom: I have a bunch of things to do IRL this morning, now that I got fully awaken by the nice sound of the chainsaws... So I'll queue your patches for later in the afternoon... 1314863199 #crosstool-ng bhundven say kos_tom & y_morin: lemme know if you need any testing 1314863211 #crosstool-ng y_morin say bhundven: thx! 1314863218 #crosstool-ng bhundven say happy to help in any way I can 1314863473 #crosstool-ng kos_tom say y_morin, sure no pb, nothing urgent. 1314863870 - y_morin nick y_morin|away 1314864294 - bhundven quit Quit: leaving 1314866034 #crosstool-ng groton join 1314867724 - y_morin|away nick y_morin 1314870135 - y_morin quit *.net *.split 1314870136 - groton quit *.net *.split 1314870136 - xvilka quit *.net *.split 1314870136 - sh4rm4 quit *.net *.split 1314870136 - snappy quit *.net *.split 1314870136 - al` quit *.net *.split 1314870136 - kos_tom quit *.net *.split 1314870136 - ChanServ quit *.net *.split 1314870183 #crosstool-ng groton join 1314870183 #crosstool-ng kos_tom join 1314870183 #crosstool-ng y_morin join 1314870183 #crosstool-ng xvilka join 1314870183 #crosstool-ng ChanServ join 1314870183 #crosstool-ng snappy join 1314870183 #crosstool-ng al` join 1314870183 #crosstool-ng sh4rm4 join 1314872700 - y_morin nick y_morin|away 1314875433 - y_morin|away nick y_morin 1314877741 - y_morin nick y_morin|away 1314878486 - y_morin|away nick y_morin 1314879086 - y_morin nick y_morin|away 1314881311 #crosstool-ng mnt_real join 1314883377 - y_morin|away nick y_morin 1314885034 - groton quit Quit: Leaving. 1314885455 #crosstool-ng groton join 1314887352 #crosstool-ng Buglouse join 1314887807 - y_morin nick y_morin|away 1314890550 - groton quit Quit: Leaving. 1314891867 #crosstool-ng groton join 1314893609 - kos_tom quit Quit: Leaving 1314894707 #crosstool-ng mnt_real_ join 1314894767 - y_morin|away nick y_morin 1314895727 - y_morin nick y_morin|away 1314895898 - snappy quit Read error: Operation timed out 1314895933 #crosstool-ng snappy join 1314895933 - snappy quit Changing host 1314895933 #crosstool-ng snappy join 1314897527 - groton quit Quit: Leaving. 1314898413 - y_morin|away nick y_morin 1314899969 #crosstool-ng groton join 1314900071 - mnt_real_ quit Quit: Ex-Chat 1314900363 - sh4rm4 quit Quit: hw update 1314900464 - y_morin nick y_morin|away 1314902250 - y_morin|away nick y_morin 1314906548 - y_morin quit Remote host closed the connection 1314906851 - tor quit Quit: Ex-Chat 1314913498 - groton quit Quit: Leaving. 1314916317 #crosstool-ng groton join 1314917926 - groton quit Quit: Leaving.