# Format for this file: # Epoch Channel Nickname Action Message # # All separated with a single space, empty values are replaced with a dash '-' # except messages which are kept empty. # Lines starting with '#' are comments; comments are not allowed except as the only content of the line # 1318899074 - sh4rm4 quit *.net *.split 1318899076 - kos_tom quit *.net *.split 1318899077 - mnt_real quit *.net *.split 1318899318 #crosstool-ng sh4rm4 join 1318899318 #crosstool-ng mnt_real join 1318899318 #crosstool-ng kos_tom join 1318913562 - mnt_real quit Quit: Leaving 1318921723 #crosstool-ng y_morin join 1318922323 #crosstool-ng smartin join 1318949918 - y_morin quit 1318953587 #crosstool-ng y_morin join 1318956368 - y_morin nick y_morin|away 1318957961 - smartin quit Ping timeout: 265 seconds 1318959202 - y_morin|away nick y_morin 1318959886 - y_morin nick y_morin|away 1318962702 - y_morin|away nick y_morin 1318963331 - y_morin nick y_morin|away 1318964210 #crosstool-ng mnt_real join 1318964265 #crosstool-ng mnt_real say y_morin|away: looking at linaro's patch on making pkgversion optional 1318964301 #crosstool-ng mnt_real say y_morin|away: isn't the inclusion of pkgversion part of the license ? 1318965759 #crosstool-ng smartin join 1318970273 - y_morin|away nick y_morin 1318970349 #crosstool-ng y_morin say mnt_real: hello! Not sure what you mean by "inclusion of pkgversion part of the license". 1318970383 #crosstool-ng y_morin say There is nothing in the license that sttes the "crostool-NG" should be part of the pkgversion. That's a restriction, and thus is not allowed by the GPL. 1318970397 #crosstool-ng y_morin say s/sttes/states/ 1318970493 #crosstool-ng y_morin say mnt_real: That's just that I would prefer that stock crosstool-NG does set pkgversion to "crosstool-NG foobar", but nothing prevents someone from removing that part of the code and simply setting it to "foobar" 1318970511 #crosstool-ng mnt_real say y_morin: thanks for the explanation, I misunderstood then, for some reason we had to have that string as part of the generated toolchains 1318970551 #crosstool-ng mnt_real say y_morin: I meant, for some reason I thought we had to have that sting part of the generated toolchains 1318970582 #crosstool-ng mnt_real say y_morin: god I can't type /sting/string/ 1318970614 #crosstool-ng mnt_real say y_morin: toolchains I was shipping I always left that string to show that it was generated by crostoolng 1318970618 #crosstool-ng y_morin say mnt_real: no, no, not at all. But what the GPL states is that you have to supply the "scripts used to control compilation and installation" (in GPLv2) 1318970652 #crosstool-ng mnt_real say y_morin: OK so we need to supply crosstoolng which is the script ... 1318970662 #crosstool-ng y_morin say So having that string in toolchains help identification. 1318970690 #crosstool-ng y_morin say mnt_real: yes, that's explained in the LICENSES" file in the top-level dir of crosstool-NG, last section. 1318970697 #crosstool-ng mnt_real say y_morin: besides I thought it is nice to have the string there to give the right credit to crosstoolsng 1318970712 #crosstool-ng y_morin say Yes, that also! :-) 1318970737 #crosstool-ng mnt_real say y_morin: so I will continue including the string and refer to the repository as the sources 1318970883 #crosstool-ng y_morin say mnt_real: we're sliding to a sensible subject here. IANAL, but pointing to the upstream is usually considered enough. But the _letter_ of the GPL states, roughly, "on the same place as the executable", which means: the CD or CD set, the same FTP, and so on... GPLv3 is more laxist on this subject, though, but I don't know it enough to comment. 1318970915 #crosstool-ng y_morin say And that's all I'll state on this subject for now... 1318971155 #crosstool-ng mnt_real say y_morin: thank y_morin, no worries, I will read up more as well and make sure I'll continue providing whatever necessary if not more, thanks for your attention so far 1318971172 #crosstool-ng y_morin say mnt_real: my pleasure! :-) 1318971293 #crosstool-ng mnt_real say y_morin: thanks for maintaining such a nice tool, you are doing a very good job, it helps me quite a bit. 1318971579 #crosstool-ng y_morin say mnt_real: Cheers! Thanks, it helps reading such comments! :-) 1318971833 #crosstool-ng bhundven join 1318972262 - smartin quit 1318972587 #crosstool-ng mnt_real say y_morin: just saw your post on the subject, I feel bad I created the confusion, hopefully it will be helpful for some others at some point as well, you stated it all very clearly, thanks again 1318972663 #crosstool-ng y_morin say mnt_real: don't worry. I prefer that questions be asked, and get answered, rather than FUD being disseminated! :-) 1318972679 #crosstool-ng mnt_real say y_morin: :) 1318972718 #crosstool-ng y_morin say mnt_real: thank you for raising the issue. Hopefully, it's all set now!:-) 1318972752 #crosstool-ng y_morin tell is just considering doing the 1.13.0 release right now.... 1318972782 #crosstool-ng y_morin say Everything look nice, and it's anyway too late to add anything new. 1318972873 #crosstool-ng y_morin say OTOH, releases usually appear on the last day of the month, so I may just prepare the release now, and push it when I'm back from ELC-E/LinuxCon, just in case there's a last-minute issue popping up... 1318973481 #crosstool-ng mnt_real say y_morin: I can test 1.13.0 for my set of toolchains (arm, powerpc) when the release becomes available 1318973548 #crosstool-ng y_morin say mnt_real: you can test right now by using the repository. I'll push a last changeset that updates all the samples, in the coming minutes... 1318973631 #crosstool-ng mnt_real say y_morin: OK, I will just do that, have your last changeset and will test it out ... 1318973788 #crosstool-ng y_morin say mnt_real: OK, it's in. Thank you! :-) 1318973883 #crosstool-ng mnt_real say y_morin: great, thanks, I'll let you know if I see something strange, will test probably little after supper time, are you in European time ? 1318973897 #crosstool-ng y_morin say mnt_real: UTC+0200, yes. 1318974042 #crosstool-ng mnt_real say y_morin: OK we are at -5, we'll send you and e-mail then if there is anything and if you are gone, goodnight then ... 1318974100 #crosstool-ng y_morin say mnt_real: OK, thanks! I'll probably be gone at 00:00 here, in about 30min... 1318974130 #crosstool-ng mnt_real say y_morin: sounds good, have a good night and a nice start tomorrow :) 1318974151 #crosstool-ng y_morin say Cheers! Have a good evening! See ya! 1318974157 #crosstool-ng mnt_real say y_morin: :) 1318975487 - y_morin quit Quit: Quitting...