# Format for this file: # Epoch Channel Nickname Action Message # # All separated with a single space, empty values are replaced with a dash '-' # except messages which are kept empty. # Lines starting with '#' are comments; comments are not allowed except as the only content of the line # 1330992336 - smartin quit 1330992594 - y_morin quit Quit: Night! 1330994556 - bhundven nick bhundven|afk 1331024732 #crosstool-ng smartin join 1331058137 - smartin quit 1331059104 - bhundven|afk nick bhundven 1331059346 #crosstool-ng y_morin join 1331061104 #crosstool-ng smartin join 1331061131 - y_morin nick y_morin|away 1331062648 - sh4rm4 quit Ping timeout: 276 seconds 1331062841 #crosstool-ng sh4rm4 join 1331063401 - smartin quit Ping timeout: 245 seconds 1331064046 #crosstool-ng daggs1 join 1331064075 #crosstool-ng daggs1 say y_morin|away, hello :) did you was the log I've posted? 1331064145 - y_morin|away nick y_morin 1331064190 #crosstool-ng y_morin say daggs1: hey! Yes, I looked quickly yesterday evening. 1331064209 #crosstool-ng y_morin say daggs1: yet, I did not look too much in details, though, so I did not find the cause... 1331064253 #crosstool-ng daggs1 say ok, I assume you'd want the config.log right? 1331064286 #crosstool-ng daggs1 say what strikes me odd is that the config.log seems ok, e.g. finished succseffully 1331064305 #crosstool-ng y_morin say daggs1: can you check that you have the static version of ncurses on your system? 1331064330 #crosstool-ng y_morin say daggs1: you selected to build a static toolchain, so you need the appropriate .a libraries 1331064360 #crosstool-ng y_morin say daggs1: that's my initial guesstimate as to the cause of this issue. 1331064484 #crosstool-ng y_morin say daggs1: yes, the top-level config.log is OK, the issue occurs in a sub-dir (but which one is not obvious, due to parralelism) 1331064510 #crosstool-ng daggs1 say y_morin, I doubt ubuntu/fedora are shipping static versions of ncurses, is this a must? 1331064577 #crosstool-ng y_morin say daggs1: Yes, they do. Ubuntu has them in libncurses5-dev (or ibncursesw5-dev for the wide-chars version) 1331064595 #crosstool-ng y_morin say daggs1: For Fedora, it might be a similar package, ending in -dev or -devel, I think. 1331064603 #crosstool-ng daggs1 say mmm sec 1331064619 #crosstool-ng y_morin say daggs1: and yes, the static version must be installed if you want to build statically... 1331064676 #crosstool-ng daggs1 say I see, I'll ask at fedora's room, one sec 1331064680 #crosstool-ng y_morin say daggs1: canyou check if you have: /usr/lib/libncurses.a (or /usr/lib/libncursesw.a) 1331064712 #crosstool-ng daggs1 say y_morin, I'm not at work now so nope, I'll check tomorrow and post findings here. 1331064723 #crosstool-ng y_morin say daggs1: OK. 1331064786 #crosstool-ng bhundven say yea, there are seperate -static packages that are not installed when you install the -devel package on fedora 1331064822 #crosstool-ng y_morin say bhundven: hello! Thanks for the clarification! :-) 1331064830 #crosstool-ng bhundven say hey yann 1331064831 #crosstool-ng daggs1 say bhundven, what do I need to install to get static ncurses? 1331064854 #crosstool-ng bhundven say yum install ncurses-static 1331064871 #crosstool-ng bhundven say I don't have any fedora boxes right now though 1331064873 #crosstool-ng bhundven say to verify 1331064886 #crosstool-ng y_morin say bhundven: BTW, I applied two of your three patches. What's the status about eglibc, then? 1331064896 #crosstool-ng bhundven say I have a patch to submit 1331064910 #crosstool-ng bhundven say I'll send that today 1331064923 #crosstool-ng y_morin say bhundven: great! Thx. :-) 1331064924 #crosstool-ng bhundven say I have a bunch of patch queues 1331064941 #crosstool-ng bhundven say if only the patch I want to hg email is in qapplied 1331064945 #crosstool-ng bhundven say will it be the only one sent? 1331064964 #crosstool-ng daggs1 say bhundven, thanks, I'll try it in a few hours and report back 1331065016 #crosstool-ng y_morin say bhundven: yep: hg email --outgoing -> sends only changesets that are not present in the upstream repository. 1331065057 #crosstool-ng bhundven say k 1331066057 #crosstool-ng bhundven say btw, y_morin, I have gotten a ton of bounces when I email patches from your email address 1331066075 #crosstool-ng y_morin say bhundven: @anciens.enib.fr ? 1331066080 #crosstool-ng bhundven say yea 1331066089 #crosstool-ng y_morin say bhundven: this email is dead, I switched to @free.fr 1331066095 #crosstool-ng bhundven say ok 1331066139 #crosstool-ng bhundven say should probably update docs/C - Misc. tutorials.txt 1331066153 #crosstool-ng y_morin say bhundven: Yep, right. 1331066248 #crosstool-ng bhundven say emailed patch for eglibc-2.15 1331066304 #crosstool-ng y_morin say Sigh... A lot of old emails to update through-out the code... :-/ 1331066313 #crosstool-ng y_morin say Time for a find + xargs! :-) 1331066317 #crosstool-ng bhundven say :D 1331066318 #crosstool-ng y_morin say bhundven: Thanks! 1331066329 #crosstool-ng bhundven say no problem! 1331066347 #crosstool-ng y_morin say bhundven: this is to be applied on-top of your previous one, or to replace it? 1331066358 #crosstool-ng bhundven say they are seperate changes 1331066372 #crosstool-ng y_morin say bhundven: OK. 1331066387 #crosstool-ng bhundven say one adds eglibc-2.15, and the other is a fix to not test __builtin_expect 1331066431 #crosstool-ng y_morin say bhundven: I'll coalesce the two patches into a single one, as eglibc-2.15 would be unusable without the patch, I guess... 1331066474 #crosstool-ng bhundven say right 1331066477 #crosstool-ng bhundven say that's fine with me 1331066481 #crosstool-ng bhundven say thanks yann 1331066672 #crosstool-ng bhundven say I have some idea's for fixing the multi-arch multilib configs, but I'm going to wait until you do your 'incoming build/host/target frontends' 1331066775 #crosstool-ng y_morin say bhundven: I also have an idea, too: always ask the multilib list to the core gcc. That requires that my candian-revamp is finished first, though. 1331066789 #crosstool-ng y_morin say bhundven: so, in the meantime, canadian+multilib is broken. 1331066836 #crosstool-ng y_morin say bhundven: never mind, I mixed up the latest canadian+multilib vs. your 32/64 issues... 1331066919 #crosstool-ng y_morin say bhundven: anyway, don't hold your beath, the MQ for the canadian revamp has been floating for 14 months, now... :-/ 1331066926 #crosstool-ng y_morin say *breath 1331066988 #crosstool-ng y_morin say bhundven: on a side note, in case you find it interesting: http://ymorin.is-a-geek.org/hg/kconfig-frontends/ 1331067156 #crosstool-ng bhundven say yea, I saw that 1331067160 #crosstool-ng bhundven say very cool 1331067166 #crosstool-ng y_morin say :-) 1331067230 #crosstool-ng bhundven say that'll help you keep in sync with kernel.org's kconfig 1331067245 #crosstool-ng bhundven say got a few projects I might make kconfig'urable 1331067257 #crosstool-ng bhundven say anyways, off to lunch 1331067262 - bhundven nick bhundven|0xf00d 1331068137 - daggs1 quit Quit: Leaving 1331069371 - y_morin nick y_morin|away 1331070601 - bhundven|0xf00d nick bhundven 1331072519 - y_morin|away nick y_morin 1331073261 #crosstool-ng bhundven say http://www.cmcrossroads.com/bradapp/acme/branching/branch-creation.html 1331073268 #crosstool-ng bhundven say heh 1331073404 #crosstool-ng bhundven say I feel crazy when I've worked with multiple vcs's in one day 1331073427 #crosstool-ng bhundven say but it makes me feel good that I can use the same vcs patterns in all of them 1331073532 #crosstool-ng y_morin say bhundven: I disagree with C2 (Branch per task). Before merging back to '/devel_line', a first merge from '/devel_line' to the branch should be done, as solving conflicts on the branch is better than holding the 'trunk' /locked/ in the meantime. 1331073554 #crosstool-ng y_morin say bhundven: plus, regular nerges are important, especially for long-lived branches (more than a week). 1331073564 #crosstool-ng bhundven say true 1331073601 #crosstool-ng y_morin say bhundven: but yes, dissociating the 'process' from the 'tool' is a major point in any VCS solution. 1331073652 #crosstool-ng bhundven say yup, and it seems to me that each company I've worked for has used the same patterns, but like you said above with C2... may have different policies 1331073653 #crosstool-ng y_morin say bhundven: but globally, that pointer is a must read! Thanks! 1331073660 #crosstool-ng bhundven say yea 1331073692 #crosstool-ng bhundven say I was looking for something to point git newbies to, and figured it would be better to understand process then the tool 1331073711 #crosstool-ng y_morin say bhundven: I have the exact same issue here! :-) 1331073792 #crosstool-ng y_morin say I will probably need to set up some introduction to VCS in general, and the process we use, then introduce the tool (undecided yet, 50% git 50% hg). 1331073811 #crosstool-ng bhundven say I like hg for this project 1331073826 #crosstool-ng bhundven say mq is so much nicer then stash 1331073846 #crosstool-ng y_morin say bhundven: but even before you introduce people to VCS, you have to instruct people *why* VCS is a good thing, and that, *no*, it's not wasted time. 1331073860 #crosstool-ng y_morin say bhundven: yes, MQ is, IMHO, the best selling point of hg. 1331073900 #crosstool-ng y_morin say Plus, hg syntax is very straight forward (for people coming fom, eg. svn). 1331073918 #crosstool-ng bhundven say it's slightly confusing coming from git 1331073929 #crosstool-ng bhundven say but after you figure it out, it rocks 1331073938 #crosstool-ng bhundven say I just haven't been able to use hg for large projects 1331073958 #crosstool-ng y_morin say Man, git is awfull... Want to see the delta between two cset, use 'diff'. Want to see the delta of a single cset, use 'show'. Man, what the heck?... :-( 1331073970 #crosstool-ng bhundven say lol 1331073975 #crosstool-ng y_morin say :-) 1331073980 #crosstool-ng bhundven say seriously 1331074006 #crosstool-ng bhundven say or: git log -p 1331074017 #crosstool-ng y_morin say Yes, the git->hg transition may get a bit frustrating. But the other way around is, too. 1331074027 #crosstool-ng bhundven say yup 1331074034 #crosstool-ng bhundven say I can imagine 1331074105 #crosstool-ng y_morin say bhundven: no, 'log -p cset' prints the log from that cset to HEAD, not only of _that_ cset. 1331074119 #crosstool-ng y_morin say Plus, if you just need the diff (for whatever post-processing), log -p gives you the log message,too. 1331074183 #crosstool-ng y_morin say Anyway, git is like any other tool. Once one knows his ways with it, it gets easy. It;s just that the learning curve is steeper than with any other VCS tool I used. 1331074586 #crosstool-ng bhundven say yea 1331074809 - bhundven nick bhundven|mtg 1331077271 - bhundven|mtg nick bhundven