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# 09:11:51 |
y_morin |
EsbenH: what was it you were speaking about (SCM)? |
# 09:11:54 |
EsbenH |
for the record: I had my own home-baked bread for breakfast. |
# 09:12:39 |
EsbenH |
EsbenH: I just smiled about you being tempted by the dark side (finding "git rebase -i" cool) ;-) |
# 09:12:51 |
y_morin |
EsbenH: will bring some of that "home-baked bread" to Barcelonna, so we can get high as you? ;-) |
# 09:13:15 |
EsbenH |
hehe, I don't think I dare bring that through customs :-) |
# 09:13:32 |
y_morin |
EsbenH: Hehe. Yes, git is very powerfull. But it still is complex to use. However, as time passes, some of it becomes easier to use. |
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# 09:13:53 |
EsbenH |
git has definitely become easier to use since I first encountered it. |
# 09:14:04 |
EsbenH |
it has also become much more powerful. |
# 09:15:27 |
y_morin |
Indeed. But to me, Hg is still easier to use, especially for /small/ projects. OTOH, git is the ultimate thermo-nuclear weapon, and I think it is much suited for big projects than Hg is. |
# 09:16:35 |
EsbenH |
"ultimate thermo-nuclear weapon", me likes :-) |
# 09:16:39 |
EsbenH |
boom boom |
# 09:17:16 |
bhundven |
Would you like to play a game? |
# 09:17:19 |
EsbenH |
The danish television is having a Star Wars festival currently ,-) |
# 09:17:21 |
bhundven |
:p |
# 09:17:34 |
bhundven |
has a copy of WarGames |
# 09:17:36 |
EsbenH |
1 movie each sunday |
# 09:18:08 |
EsbenH |
it is late, so I watch it alone, and then during the week and can see it again with the kids :-) |
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y_morin |
Lol! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFU774q6eVM |
# 09:21:37 |
bhundven |
haha |
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EsbenH |
*g* |
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abique|work |
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# 09:51:37 |
abique|work |
Hi |
# 09:52:56 |
y_morin |
abique|work: Hello! |
# 09:54:17 |
y_morin |
abique|work: it's lunch time for me, but ask your question. Maybe others will answer, and I'll be back in ~1h. |
# 09:54:25 |
abique|work |
I don't understand, I have this config file for eglibc |
# 09:54:27 |
abique|work |
http://paste.org/55689 |
# 09:54:36 |
abique|work |
and I don't get sunrpc installed |
# 09:54:47 |
abique|work |
y_morin, enjoy your meal :) |
# 09:54:55 |
y_morin |
abique|work: what version of eglibc? |
# 09:55:01 |
abique|work |
the last one |
# 09:55:04 |
y_morin |
still a few minutes!) |
# 09:55:13 |
abique|work |
2.16 |
# 09:55:14 |
y_morin |
abique|work: eglibc-2.16 ? |
# 09:55:17 |
y_morin |
OK. |
# 09:55:32 |
y_morin |
abique|work: what version of crosstool-NG ? |
# 09:55:32 |
abique|work |
is it related to the order of the config values ? |
# 09:55:45 |
abique|work |
1.16.0-1 |
# 09:56:00 |
abique|work |
I'm using archlinux |
# 09:56:48 |
abique|work |
I have the build log if you like |
# 09:56:51 |
y_morin |
abique|work: OK. I'm not using the eglibc config feature, so I never saw this issue. I'll have a look after lunch. See ya! |
# 09:57:02 |
abique|work |
see ya :) |
# 10:00:22 |
bhundven |
ah |
# 10:00:23 |
bhundven |
yea |
# 10:01:10 |
bhundven |
something about sunrpc changed |
# 10:01:12 |
bhundven |
let me look |
# 10:02:36 |
bhundven |
my current build environment is all messed up |
# 10:02:46 |
bhundven |
do you have a build log you can post somewhere? |
# 10:04:00 |
bhundven |
from what I understand |
# 10:04:16 |
bhundven |
there was a plan in 2.15 to remove building/installing sunrpc in glibc |
# 10:04:44 |
bhundven |
the fix was to build ti-rpc in your userspace to fix the dependency issue for other packages |
# 10:05:13 |
bhundven |
this would not be the responsibility of ct-ng, but buildroot or yocto or whatever you use for your bsp |
# 10:06:28 |
bhundven |
but also, please post the build.log |
# 10:06:39 |
bhundven |
I could be wrong about how they did it |
# 10:07:29 |
bhundven |
http://sourceware.org/git/?p=glibc.git;a=commit;h=021db4be6f1f4189f66feee066a495d49e92b93e |
# 10:07:39 |
bhundven |
http://sourceware.org/git/?p=glibc.git&a=search&h=HEAD&st=commit&s=sunrpc |
# 10:07:48 |
bhundven |
everything in glibc goes into eglibc |
# 10:10:27 |
bhundven |
so for now, it's up to you to experiment with seeing if ti-rpc fits your needs, or adding --enable-obsolete-rpc to your eglibc configure options |
# 10:12:22 |
abique|work |
bhundven, yeah I can send you my build log |
# 10:12:46 |
bhundven |
abique|work: I don't think I need it |
# 10:12:54 |
bhundven |
I'm now positive what I said last is true |
# 10:13:04 |
bhundven |
--enable-obsolete-rpc is not on by default |
# 10:13:19 |
bhundven |
so you would notice that sunrpc is not installed |
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abique|work |
bhundven, thanks! |
# 10:14:12 |
bhundven |
no problem |
# 10:14:35 |
bhundven |
I just have been away from this stuff for a little bit.. guess I was too chatty in my discovery process :p |
# 10:20:42 |
abique|work |
bhundven, by the way, does it means that rpc in glibc are not updated anymore? |
# 10:25:06 |
abique|work |
Ok i read the commit message |
# 10:31:53 |
abique|work |
maybe ct-ng could output a warning if the eglibc's config has sunrpc and the option --enable-obsolete-rpc is not passed? |
# 10:31:57 |
abique|work |
Going to lunch. |
# 10:48:03 |
bhundven |
more things to potentially break in the future when it is completely replaced by ti-rpc |
# 10:48:14 |
bhundven |
which is their goal |
# 10:48:40 |
bhundven |
I would suggest experimenting to see if ti-rpc works for your needs, and falling back to --enable-obsolete-rpc if it does not. |
# 10:49:02 |
bhundven |
then also looking at the ti-rpc mailing list to see if anyone else had the same exact problem you had |
# 10:49:10 |
bhundven |
and if not report your issue to ti-rpc |
# 10:49:57 |
bhundven |
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?atid=903784&group_id=183075 |
# 10:50:10 |
bhundven |
http://freecode.com/projects/tirpc |
# 10:52:25 |
bhundven |
y_morin: we should document that ti-rpc is to replace sunrpc in (e)glibc, and those links to the ti-rpc project |
# 10:53:07 |
bhundven |
but there are compatibility issues, and if you have problems with ti-rpc, fall back to adding --enable-obsolete-rpc to (e)glibc's configure options |
# 10:54:39 |
bhundven |
I'm pretty sure this started with 2.15 |
# 10:54:58 |
bhundven |
which is why I've only tested with 2.14 |
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bhundven |
prepares to stratus freefall into a cup of coffee |
# 11:06:42 |
y_morin |
bhundven: IIRC, the latest (e)glibc have re-instated sunrpc, at least until TI-RPC is at par with sunrpc. |
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y_morin |
bhundven: Ah, yes, with --enable-obsolete-rpc |
# 11:07:37 |
y_morin |
bhundven: Yes, we could add that to the ./configure options for latest (e)glibc. |
# 11:08:28 |
y_morin |
bhundven: Also, I seem to recall that the new glibc maintainer crew wanted to merge back eglibc into glibc. So maybe sometime in the (hopefully near) future, we can get rid of eglibc altogether. |
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abique|work |
yep |
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bhundven |
that would be cool |
# 11:45:19 |
EsbenH |
except that we would have to care about it for supporting older (e)glibc versions for quite a long time.... |
# 11:46:16 |
bhundven |
exactly my point from before about dealing with future breakage |
# 11:46:31 |
bhundven |
but |
# 11:46:41 |
bhundven |
I think it should be fairly trivial to work around |
# 11:47:16 |
y_morin |
EsbenH: yes, I meant: stop updating the eglibc versions, and concentrate on only glibc. |
# 11:55:48 |
bhundven |
when the merge happens |
# 11:55:50 |
bhundven |
;) |
# 11:56:27 |
bhundven |
I mean, we probably don't need to update eglibc, unless someone reports an issue |
# 11:57:06 |
bhundven |
just put the rpc config option in the glibc-eglibc shared script |
# 11:57:46 |
bhundven |
then obsolete eglibc when the merge happens |
# 11:58:04 |
bhundven |
unless the eglibc guys decide to go in a new direction after the merge |
# 11:58:13 |
bhundven |
idk what the intents of merging back to glibc are |
# 11:58:33 |
bhundven |
to sync up for new eglibc developments or to remove eglibc altogether? |
# 12:01:54 |
y_morin |
bhundven: florian has just posted a patch for --enable-obsolete-rpc for eglibc! :-) |
# 12:02:02 |
bhundven |
nice |
# 12:02:37 |
bhundven |
intelligent minds think alike |
# 12:03:01 |
bhundven |
but |
# 12:03:07 |
bhundven |
it seems to be for eglibc only |
# 12:03:16 |
bhundven |
wouldn't it also affect glibc 2.16 as well? |
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y_morin |
bhundven: we do not yet have glibc-2.16 in ct-ng. |
# 12:05:48 |
bhundven |
ah |
# 12:06:01 |
y_morin |
I'm not using it, and one pushed a patch. |
# 12:06:53 |
bhundven |
oh well, I'll put it out there anyways |
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y_morin |
bhundven: IIRC, sunrpc headers were removed from glibc-2.14, and re-instated in 2.16 under the --enable-obsolete-rpc. Which makes it 2.14 and 2.15 that miss sunrpc. |
# 13:16:58 |
bhundven |
hrm |
# 13:17:07 |
bhundven |
I don't see in git where they were removed |
# 13:17:15 |
bhundven |
I think the coffee is not working |
# 13:18:09 |
y_morin |
bhundven: http://sourceware.org/git/?p=glibc.git;a=commit;h=7b57bfe5988e476ea40934457dfd1c8a231e2391 |
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y_morin |
Sun, 17 Apr 2011 01:59:36 +0000 (21:59 -0400) |
# 13:21:11 |
bhundven |
oh |
# 13:21:19 |
bhundven |
yea, 2.14 was cut may 31st |
# 13:21:32 |
bhundven |
and I did find that change in the 2.14 branch |
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bhundven |
ok |
# 13:21:42 |
bhundven |
switches to redbull |
# 13:22:20 |
y_morin |
bhundven: --enable-obsolete-rpc added back: http://sourceware.org/git/?p=glibc.git;a=commit;h=021db4be6f1f4189f66feee066a495d49e92b93e |
# 13:22:25 |
y_morin |
Thu, 10 May 2012 18:16:53 +0000 (20:16 +0200) |
# 13:22:48 |
y_morin |
bhundven: Say, isn't it time for sleep in your area (I mean for normal people)? |
# 13:23:06 |
y_morin |
bhundven: maybe coffee and redbull are not the solution? ;-) |
# 13:23:11 |
bhundven |
normal? |
# 13:23:13 |
bhundven |
wtf is that |
# 13:23:18 |
y_morin |
:-) |
# 13:23:20 |
bhundven |
I've been up since 3am |
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bhundven |
:D |
# 13:23:38 |
y_morin |
Ouch... |
# 13:23:59 |
bhundven |
yea, too much going on. having dreams of deploying servers |
# 13:24:06 |
bhundven |
wakes me up at midnight |
# 13:24:22 |
bhundven |
I try to go back and wake up at 3 and go back to deployment scripts |
# 13:24:36 |
y_morin |
bhundven: take a run around the block, then go back to bed. it does wonders! ;-) |
# 13:24:48 |
y_morin |
goes to a meeting... |
# 13:24:58 |
bhundven |
enjoy |
# 13:26:35 |
y_morin |
bhundven: Hmm... Not really. :-) |
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bhundven |
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bhundven |
lol |
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dalias |
hi |
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y_morin |
dalias: hello! |
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