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bhundven |
hello, y_morin! |
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# 18:58:55 |
y_morin |
bhundven: Howdy! :-) |
# 18:59:45 |
bhundven |
y_morin: do you have a link to that email on the buildroot mailing list about uclibc being deprecated? |
# 19:00:27 |
y_morin |
bhundven: It is not deprepcated. WE're thinking of making it not the default any more. |
# 19:00:35 |
y_morin |
bhundven: But I can dig it for you, yes... |
# 19:00:36 |
bhundven |
right, well, that one |
# 19:00:57 |
bhundven |
changes his wording... |
# 19:01:46 |
y_morin |
bhundven: The report of the last developers day, where we discussed the issue: http://elinux.org/Buildroot:DeveloperDaysFOSDEM2014#How_to_handle_the_uClibc_problem |
# 19:02:03 |
y_morin |
bhundven: I'll dig up the mail if I can find it... |
# 19:02:12 |
bhundven |
y_morin: that works, don't worry! |
# 19:02:33 |
bhundven |
y_morin: I just wanted something to reference the lack of maintenance going into uClibc. |
# 19:02:44 |
bhundven |
(in response to an issue on the crossgcc ml |
# 19:02:46 |
bhundven |
) |
# 19:04:09 |
y_morin |
bhundven: And the mail: http://lists.busybox.net/pipermail/buildroot/2014-February/089789.html |
# 19:04:25 |
y_morin |
bhundven: Yes, I need to look at the crossgcc list tonight. |
# 19:04:28 |
bhundven |
y_morin: yup, that's the one! |
# 19:04:44 |
bhundven |
y_morin: there is also a g+ community :) |
# 19:04:54 |
y_morin |
bhundven: A what community? :-p |
# 19:05:03 |
bhundven |
https://plus.google.com/u/0/communities/107418837548348862178 |
# 19:05:13 |
y_morin |
bhundven: Yes, I know! ;-) |
# 19:05:16 |
bhundven |
lol |
# 19:06:08 |
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# 19:08:15 |
y_morin |
Sigh.. I have the sun shining on my screen, just in the corner of my eye, and no curtain or shutters... :-/ |
# 19:08:52 |
bhundven |
maybe it's a sign... the sun is calling you. |
# 19:09:03 |
bhundven |
:D |
# 19:09:12 |
y_morin |
I can see every speck of dust stuck on the screen, and it is really disturbing... |
# 19:09:35 |
y_morin |
bhundven: Surely no! :-) |
# 19:11:32 |
y_morin |
Ah, yes, the guy with a very old kernel... |
# 19:11:59 |
bhundven |
:) |
# 19:12:12 |
bhundven |
uClibc... nothing to see here... move on. |
# 19:13:08 |
bhundven |
I'm finally getting around to learning about CI, so hopefully soon I'll have some build test automation going up, wrt crosstool-ng |
# 19:14:24 |
y_morin |
bhundven: Jenkins? |
# 19:14:48 |
bhundven |
y_morin: not sure yet. I'm learning jenkins for work, but not sure what I'm going to go with for ctng |
# 19:15:14 |
bhundven |
there are a few online services that do it, so we don't need a host to purchase to run it. |
# 19:15:41 |
bhundven |
travis-ci.org looks good |
# 19:16:39 |
bhundven |
but I'm building some qemu images (https://github.com/bhundven/packer-images/) to run "make check" against. |
# 19:17:00 |
bhundven |
and run gcc test suite against |
# 19:17:14 |
bhundven |
but I have to fix a bug in packer first... :sigh: |
# 19:17:44 |
bhundven |
https://github.com/mitchellh/packer/issues/1208 |
# 19:18:59 |
bhundven |
y_morin: haha (2.6.9 headers...) |
# 19:19:03 |
y_morin |
bhundven: I have to admit I don;t know much about this CI stuff... |
# 19:19:15 |
y_morin |
bhundven: Yeah, definitely out-dated... :-( |
# 19:19:40 |
y_morin |
bhundven: I usually tend to reply not to mix components of so different eras, but I forgot that time... |
# 19:19:58 |
bhundven |
y_morin: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuous_integration#Principles |
# 19:20:46 |
y_morin |
bhundven: Yes, I know the principles, but have never done it so far. |
# 19:21:18 |
bhundven |
yea, I'll be the one to find out how much of a pita it will be for ctng ;) |
# 19:21:41 |
y_morin |
bhundven: Well, CI is about building known configurations over and over again, so we have the samples for that. |
# 19:22:02 |
bhundven |
yes, but after making a change to the code, do you know the samples work? |
# 19:22:19 |
bhundven |
I know a few of them right now that are broken |
# 19:22:31 |
y_morin |
bhundven: However, Buildroot is doing randomised builds to detect missing dependencies, or incorrect combinations (eg. shared vs. static...) |
# 19:22:39 |
bhundven |
right |
# 19:22:54 |
y_morin |
bhundven: No, but that's the point of CI, no? Make sure every known config still work after a commit? |
# 19:22:54 |
bhundven |
that would be a good idea, as well |
# 19:23:02 |
bhundven |
y_morin: correct |
# 19:23:19 |
bhundven |
y_morin: that's what I'm currently investigating |
# 19:23:32 |
y_morin |
bhundven: CI or random builds? |
# 19:23:42 |
bhundven |
y_morin: both would be optimal |
# 19:23:42 |
y_morin |
s/CI/samples |
# 19:24:13 |
bhundven |
y_morin: CI for now. Not sure what/how to do random builds. |
# 19:24:25 |
bhundven |
y_morin: but it's now on my list |
# 19:24:33 |
y_morin |
bhundven: Yes, CI is a good start. Thanks for working on this! :-) |
# 19:25:10 |
y_morin |
bhundven: As for random: we can look at what is done in Buildroot. I can ask kos_tom and Jacmet to provide their scripts as samples. |
# 19:25:24 |
bhundven |
y_morin: great! |
# 19:25:44 |
y_morin |
bhundven: The website showing the results is already available: http://git.busybox.net/buildroot-test |
# 19:26:04 |
bhundven |
y_morin: yup. I get the emails. (all of them... :( ) |
# 19:26:21 |
y_morin |
bhundven: Well, that the source of the website. |
# 19:26:27 |
bhundven |
y_morin: I just switched to digest on the ml |
# 19:26:29 |
y_morin |
Hehe! :-) |
# 19:26:50 |
bhundven |
~200 sometimes ~400 a day... |
# 19:27:13 |
bhundven |
my phone has much better power these days after switching to digest |
# 19:27:24 |
y_morin |
bhundven: Lol! :-) |
# 19:27:40 |
y_morin |
bhundven: But who uses his phone as main mail client nowadays? Wait... :-) |
# 19:27:53 |
bhundven |
lol |
# 19:28:10 |
bhundven |
still can't send with gmail as plaintext |
# 19:28:15 |
bhundven |
so much for technology... |
# 19:28:26 |
bhundven |
on the phone that is |
# 19:29:02 |
y_morin |
bhundven: Install K9. |
# 19:29:10 |
y_morin |
(on Android) |
# 19:30:38 |
bhundven |
still wish I could get a mail client on android that does gpg/pgp |
# 19:30:55 |
bhundven |
and gmail is such a pain on imap, imo |
# 19:31:03 |
bhundven |
I get a lot of email |
# 19:31:36 |
y_morin |
bhundven: K9 does gpg/pgp with apg, IIRC |
# 19:31:59 |
bhundven |
y_morin: hrm, I'll look into this tonight! Thanks! |
# 19:32:12 |
y_morin |
Cheers! |
# 19:57:20 |
y_morin |
bhundven: Grmbll... G+ just ditched that invitation to the community... :-/ |
# 19:59:01 |
y_morin |
Ah, got it... |
# 19:59:18 |
y_morin |
really think G+ GUI would need some revamp... |
# 20:08:02 |
bhundven |
y_morin: the other thing that sucks about g+, is that I can't just promote you to owner |
# 20:08:18 |
bhundven |
I have to promote you to moderator, and then after two weeks, I can promote you to owner |
# 20:08:22 |
bhundven |
dumb |
# 20:08:44 |
y_morin |
bhundven: Or you can just not promote me at all! :-p |
# 20:08:49 |
bhundven |
hehe |
# 20:09:15 |
ovf |
i don't usually go to social network websites, most often i end up on an individual posts linked from elsewhere. so this last time i was looking at someone's page, and was thinking "my, facebook is sure horrible with all this boxes timeline layout". and then i realised i'm looking at google+. absolutely no difference. |
# 20:10:07 |
bhundven |
ovf: :) |
# 20:10:12 |
bhundven |
I agree |
# 20:10:21 |
bhundven |
but I don't use facebook at all |
# 20:10:27 |
bhundven |
so I don't really know the difference |
# 20:12:11 |
y_morin |
ovf, bhundven: I seldom do G+ stuff. I'm only using it for mundane stuff, and have a quick laugh when I'm in need for lolcats... |
# 20:13:29 |
y_morin |
Sometimes, there's a post really interresting (eg. the square-signal decomposition in sine waves) worth something. mostly science stuff... |
# 20:13:49 |
bhundven |
y_morin: https://plus.google.com/u/0/+memebinge/posts :) |
# 20:15:17 |
ovf |
y_morin: these posts are usually linked to from hn or other link aggregators, so i get to use them, while still having the benefit of not using the horrible interfaces or having g+/fb accounts |
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# 20:49:02 |
y_morin |
bhundven: I hate you! (memebinge) :-) |
# 20:49:13 |
bhundven |
hahaha |
# 20:49:38 |
bhundven |
yea, I wasted some time there, and then remembered I have work to do. |
# 20:50:13 |
y_morin |
bhundven: Yeah... :-) |
# 20:50:22 |
bhundven |
I also have a meetup to go to |
# 20:50:32 |
y_morin |
bhundven: See ya! |
# 20:50:54 |
bhundven |
it's only 1:50pm, it starts at 6:30pm (PST) |
# 20:51:00 |
y_morin |
Ah! |
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# 20:51:43 |
bhundven |
I'm trying to hustle through Jenkins setup, and discussing with my boss about how deployments will work |
# 20:51:56 |
bhundven |
I hate operations |
# 20:52:10 |
y_morin |
bhundven: devops? Na.... :-( |
# 20:52:16 |
bhundven |
maybe free-electrons will hire me so I can get back to embedded stuff |
# 20:52:20 |
bhundven |
:D |
# 20:52:30 |
y_morin |
Hey! |
# 20:52:57 |
bhundven |
nudges kos_tom... |
# 20:53:06 |
bhundven |
;-) |
# 20:53:32 |
bhundven |
I tried linaro, but they wanted someone with more maintainer experience |
# 20:53:44 |
bhundven |
all my work has been on proprietary projects |
# 20:53:58 |
bhundven |
that I led... :-/ |
# 20:54:26 |
bhundven |
(restricted by business rules, or I'd have opensourced stuff) |
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# 20:55:19 |
bhundven |
my android porting work is a crappy example of my work, so I hate showing prospective employer's my github |
# 20:58:39 |
y_morin |
I don't even do Android... Java, no thinaks! :-) |
# 20:58:44 |
y_morin |
*thanks |
# 20:59:15 |
bhundven |
haha, I mostly do kernel stuff in the developer groups I work in: http://teamacid.co |
# 20:59:42 |
bhundven |
and I'm starting to learn java, but I hate it |
# 21:00:04 |
bhundven |
I guess you can write java apps in Scala or Clojure, so in case you have java... |
# 21:00:10 |
bhundven |
*android apps* |
# 21:00:43 |
y_morin |
Hehe... |
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