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| # 07:39:53 | daggs1-work | bhundven, heads up, new musl release in a few days |
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| # 08:41:52 | bhundven | daggs1-work: yup. I've been lurking in #musl |
| # 08:42:21 | daggs1-work | made them add ffsl and ffsll :P |
| # 08:42:39 | bhundven | s/made/asked/g |
| # 08:42:43 | bhundven | :D |
| # 08:43:11 | daggs1-work | depends on how one looks at it, did you saw mt patch? |
| # 08:43:16 | daggs1-work | s/mt/ny |
| # 08:43:23 | daggs1-work | s/ny/my |
| # 08:43:29 | bhundven | hehe |
| # 08:43:42 | bhundven | which one? |
| # 08:44:29 | bhundven | I'm still rsyncing my old drive data to the new one. |
| # 08:47:21 | bhundven | the funny part is that it is currently restoring my ~/oldhome, to /home/bryan/oldhome/bryan/oldhome |
| # 08:47:32 | bhundven | (hard drive problems, much?) |
| # 08:49:08 | daggs1-work | bhundven, this: http://pastebin.com/FySKLfdX |
| # 08:49:37 | daggs1-work | no hd problems here, using 4 samsung drives in raid. |
| # 08:50:39 | bhundven | got the patch now. Thanks! |
| # 08:51:21 | bhundven | I seem to always have problems with laptop drives. |
| # 08:52:02 | bhundven | it's why I want to get a build box and host it somewhere in a colo or something and just get a chromebook as a light terminal |
| # 08:56:42 | daggs1-work | call me paranoid, I don't trust google, I host everything on my machine |
| # 08:59:19 | bhundven | didn't say I'd get a google hosted build box :P |
| # 08:59:56 | bhundven | I'm thinking like a thinkserver rd440 and a nas box |
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| # 13:51:07 | daggs1-work | bhundven, http://pastebin.com/pjSPefqL <== more patches |
| # 14:07:19 | sh4rm4 | or just wait 24 hrs and use musl 1.1.4 |
| # 14:07:37 | sh4rm4 | its not like anything in that patch is important |
| # 14:08:32 | sh4rm4 | also sw using strtouq should be fixed to use the portable strtoull |
| # 14:08:43 | sh4rm4 | instead of shoehorning custom extensions into musl |
| # 14:11:39 | sh4rm4 | btw i know only a single program that uses ffsll |
| # 14:11:42 | sh4rm4 | qemu |
| # 14:12:02 | sh4rm4 | do you think its worth to add any exotic function to musl just because a single package uses it? |
| # 14:12:12 | sh4rm4 | rather than patching said package ? |
| # 14:16:29 | daggs1-work | sh4rm4, no implementation for get_nprocs |
| # 14:16:52 | daggs1-work | the patch contains define strtouq to strtoull |
| # 14:17:08 | sh4rm4 | which is not in musl |
| # 14:17:22 | sh4rm4 | for good reasons |
| # 14:17:30 | sh4rm4 | because it pollutes the namespace |
| # 14:17:31 | daggs1-work | get_nprocs is defined in musl but not implemented |
| # 14:17:37 | sh4rm4 | and ? |
| # 14:17:50 | sh4rm4 | there is no point to distribute ct-ng with a customized musl |
| # 14:18:17 | daggs1-work | sh4rm4, didn't said, if all these changes will be in 1.1.4 I'll be more than happy |
| # 14:18:27 | sh4rm4 | then ppl building musl toolchains with ct-ng will come to #musl complaining about bugs that are not even in musl |
| # 14:19:04 | daggs1-work | I don't follow, sorry |
| # 14:19:10 | sh4rm4 | daggs1-work, this is not about creating your personal toolchain which mimics glibc so you can always use the path of least resistance |
| # 14:20:27 | daggs1-work | what part of the patch is personal? if someone else will try compile what I'm trying against musl he will get the same errors |
| # 14:21:04 | sh4rm4 | yes, and hopefully he will complain about the bug in the software using the non-portable construct |
| # 14:21:09 | sh4rm4 | so said software will be fixed |
| # 14:21:59 | sh4rm4 | so far anything in that patch is personal |
| # 14:22:23 | daggs1-work | sh4rm4, check again CPU_EQUAL... |
| # 14:22:42 | daggs1-work | get_nprocs is non portable code? |
| # 14:22:55 | sh4rm4 | it's "add some self-written stuff to musl so anything i'm building works without fixing compatibility bugs in said pkgs" |
| # 14:23:32 | daggs1-work | sh4rm4, according to nsz CPU_EQUAL is a bug. |
| # 14:24:31 | sh4rm4 | yes, CPU_EQUAL is a real bug and it's gonna be fixed in the next release |
| # 14:25:07 | daggs1-work | ok, so not all the patch is personal. |
| # 14:25:17 | sh4rm4 | it is personal |
| # 14:25:34 | daggs1-work | if get_nprocs is non portable code, why declare it in the first place? |
| # 14:25:35 | sh4rm4 | it fixes a bug in the stuff you build |
| # 14:26:17 | daggs1-work | in that case almost every bug fix is personal. |
| # 14:26:30 | sh4rm4 | it's not ct-ng's job to fix any bug in any library it uses |
| # 14:26:32 | daggs1-work | so does #617 |
| # 14:27:00 | sh4rm4 | otherwise you'd have 100 patches for every uclibc version |
| # 14:27:26 | sh4rm4 | you just report the bug upstream, and update the lib once its fixed |
| # 14:27:35 | daggs1-work | I'm just offering, ct guys should do what they think so. |
| # 14:28:02 | sh4rm4 | note: i'm building an entire linux distro with 750 packages against musl |
| # 14:28:13 | sh4rm4 | and i never needed CPU_EQUAL or get_nprocs |
| # 14:28:31 | sh4rm4 | so this is a very rarely used cornercase |
| # 14:29:25 | daggs1-work | maybe so, still you might encounter things you need. |
| # 14:29:38 | sh4rm4 | no, i'd patch them to do without that nonsense |
| # 14:29:55 | sh4rm4 | there's no good reason to count the number of cpus |
| # 14:30:19 | sh4rm4 | an app that uses all your available cores will just hog down your system |
| # 14:30:36 | daggs1-work | again I encounter issues, I try to fix it and share it with others. imho declaring a func and not implementing it is polluting in the same matter |
| # 14:30:42 | sh4rm4 | if you need 2 threads, then you just use 2 threads |
| # 14:30:48 | sh4rm4 | regardless of the number of cpus |
| # 14:32:23 | sh4rm4 | or you let the user decide how many threads he can afford |
| # 14:32:34 | daggs1-work | sh4rm4, that is your opinion and you are entitled to have it, the company I work in is concentrates in HPC and naturally we think different. |
| # 14:32:38 | sh4rm4 | so if he has 4 cores, he may want to use only 3 so he can continue surfing |
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| # 17:55:48 | daggs1-work | y_morin, greetings, whats up? |
| # 17:57:33 | y_morin | daggs1-work: Heyda! |
| # 17:57:55 | y_morin | daggs1-work: Not much news... Except it's time for dinner (8pm here) |
| # 17:58:11 | daggs1-work | y_morin, bon apetite :) |
| # 17:58:16 | daggs1-work | here it is 9pm |
| # 17:58:26 | y_morin | daggs1-work: Thanks! |
| # 17:58:38 | memleak | whats for dinner? |
| # 17:58:54 | daggs1-work | small question, maybe you know, LINENO env var is a libc implementation or bash implementation? |
| # 17:59:13 | memleak | libc i believe. |
| # 17:59:47 | memleak | no, bash |
| # 18:00:31 | daggs1-work | memleak, thanks |
| # 18:00:44 | memleak | i normally make steak and seafood for dinner |
| # 18:01:20 | daggs1-work | memleak, not bits and bytes? |
| # 18:01:22 | memleak | new york strip with some shrimp, lobster tail if i can afford it. |
| # 18:02:14 | memleak | if im going cheap i normally make a cheap sirloin, smash it up with a tenderizer and make a horseradish crust on it, with a side of potatoes and veggies. |
| # 18:04:43 | memleak | if it wasnt for trying to impress the ladies, i wouldnt know how to cook. |
| # 18:07:23 | daggs1-work | well. my lady like my spaghetti bolognese, impresses her enough :)\ |
| # 18:08:10 | kos_tom | memleak: can you invite me for dinner then? I wouldn't mind a good new york strip with some shrimp :-) |
| # 18:10:42 | memleak | heh! |
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| # 18:50:19 | bhundven | sh4rm4> then ppl building musl toolchains with ct-ng will come to #musl complaining about bugs that are not even in musl |
| # 18:50:32 | bhundven | same reason I don't want to add too many patches to ct-ng for musl |
| # 18:51:48 | bhundven | only eats hex |
| # 18:52:05 | bhundven | 0xDEADBEEF |
| # 19:30:54 | bhundven | y_morin: crosstool-ng.org down? |
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| # 19:34:13 | y_morin | bhundven: Hello1 |
| # 19:34:19 | y_morin | bhundven: Working here for me... |
| # 19:38:39 | bhundven | weird |
| # 19:40:11 | y_morin | bhundven: Still down for you? |
| # 19:40:29 | bhundven | yup |
| # 19:40:54 | y_morin | bhundven: not even ping? |
| # 19:41:19 | bhundven | 140.211.15.107 doesn't ping |
| # 19:41:40 | y_morin | bhundven: http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/crosstool-ng.org |
| # 19:41:54 | bhundven | lol |
| # 19:42:01 | bhundven | "It's just you" |
| # 19:42:10 | y_morin | :-) |
| # 19:42:18 | y_morin | Yep, correct IP address. |
| # 19:59:54 | bhundven | yup, works on my at&t tether |
| # 20:00:04 | bhundven | comcast is broken today... as usual. |
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