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# 14:32:49 sh4rm4 bhundven, what's the status on your musl gcc patches project?
# 14:36:35 sh4rm4 since Gregor cannot be reached we may want to re-roll the project
# 14:37:03 sh4rm4 and start porting every bit of the patches into a single patch < 10 lines
# 14:37:18 sh4rm4 so it doesnt need copyright bureaucratics
# 14:37:31 sh4rm4 and then send one after the other
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# 19:20:59 mingwandroid y_morin: hey.
# 19:40:21 y_morin mingwandroid: Hello!
# 19:41:00 mingwandroid y_morin: seems cygwin running on wine is a rare thing indeed!
# 19:41:10 y_morin mingwandroid: Yes, I can guess so. :-)
# 19:41:25 mingwandroid y_morin: I mentioned to Alexey, the MSYS2 lead, and we'd really like to trap this rare beast in a repeatability cage.
# 19:41:41 y_morin Hey! :-_
# 19:41:44 y_morin :-)
# 19:42:25 mingwandroid y_morin: we'd like the version and package numbers and arches if possible.
# 19:42:40 y_morin mingwandroid: You mean, about my testing?
# 19:43:43 mingwandroid yeah, you said ubuntu? version? x86 or x86-64? wine 1.6, can you be more specific? also, was it just latest cygwin? which arch was that?
# 19:44:04 y_morin mingwandroid: Hold on a sec, I'll gather all the info.
# 19:44:12 mingwandroid y_morin: great, many thanks
# 19:44:25 y_morin mingwandroid: But I did not try msys2 for now, I can do if you want (will have to wait a moment, though)
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# 19:45:00 mingwandroid y_morin: well, I don't want to put you out even further :-)
# 19:45:20 y_morin mingwandroid: No problem. I'd be happy if that was working, too.
# 19:47:48 y_morin mingwandroid: http://code.bulix.org/u0u5uo-86967?raw
# 19:48:15 y_morin mingwandroid: I tested with both Cygwin x86 and x86_64
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# 19:48:58 y_morin mingwandroid: I'll replicate once more to catch the exact error messages...
# 19:49:22 mingwandroid y_morin: thanks, much appreciated.
# 19:51:03 y_morin mingwandroid: Hmmm.. Cygwin setup is ~750KiB, while msys2 is 70MiB. What's the difference?
# 19:51:23 mingwandroid MSYS2 includes most of the core packages needed and also perl.
# 19:51:39 mingwandroid our installer is built using qt5-static which adds ~20MB.
# 19:52:06 mingwandroid whereas cygwin setup.exe is just a downloader.
# 19:52:32 y_morin mingwandroid: Ah, so msys22s setup is like a distro CDROm install, while Cygwin is like Debian's netinst (kinda)?
# 19:52:57 mingwandroid y_morin: yeah, more or less, but once MSYS2 is running, we have pacman from ArchLinux, so we're a rolling distro.
# 19:54:13 mingwandroid y_morin: as well as installer exes we also have a tar.xz file: http://sourceforge.net/projects/msys2/files/Base/x86_64/msys2-base-x86_64-20140910.tar.xz/download
# 19:54:17 y_morin mingwandroid: Hmmm. My wine wines that I do not have Mono installed. Is that mandatory? Because I would not like to touch that stuff even with a 10" pole...
# 19:55:04 mingwandroid y_morin: the size difference is the qt-installer overhead. the installer does an initial run of MSYS2 bash for you, whereas the tar.xz does the first run stuff when you, err, first run it.
# 19:56:00 y_morin Well, I guess I'll install mono (and gecko since it also wines about it) and see if it works better...
# 19:56:49 y_morin mingwandroid: Well, the size is not a problem. I was just curious. :-)
# 20:03:41 mingwandroid y_morin: well, running the installer depends on qt5 working too, but actually, I had the installer run OK, just not bash.exe
# 20:04:25 y_morin mingwandroid: Yes, the Cygwin installer looks to be running fine, but I have a lot of warnings on the console: AddAccessAllowedAce(, group) failed: 1337
# 20:04:48 mingwandroid 1337? ;-)
# 20:05:00 y_morin Yup.
# 20:06:35 y_morin mingwandroid: And then, when Cygwin tries to install its first package: http://code.bulix.org/7ihlbc-86968?raw
# 20:06:53 y_morin And I have the same in a popup window, too.
# 20:07:39 y_morin mingwandroid: And if I run the 64-bit Cygwin installer, I have the same error.
# 20:07:47 mingwandroid ok
# 20:07:52 y_morin mingwandroid: I'll try msys2 now.
# 20:08:15 mingwandroid you are able to run the bash console after these issues?
# 20:09:00 y_morin mingwandroid: No, the install completely fails.
# 20:09:44 mingwandroid y_morin: oh, did I misunderstand:
# 20:09:54 mingwandroid mingwandroid: The only error I got was late during install, where a script would get stuck. Killing it would make a usable, albeit real slow, Cygwin setup.
# 20:10:16 y_morin mingwandroid: Yes, that was a long time ago.
# 20:10:27 y_morin mingwandroid: Now, it does not even work up to that point anymore.
# 20:10:43 mingwandroid y_morin: aaah, sorry, I got the wrong end of the stick entirely then :-(
# 20:10:59 y_morin mingwandroid: No problem, I may not have been very clear either.
# 20:11:08 y_morin mingwandroid: And msys2 also fails: http://ymorin.is-a-geek.org/download/tmp/msys2-fail.png
# 20:11:58 mingwandroid right, I think what happened is that I joined the channel mid discussion with Martell
# 20:12:18 mingwandroid y_morin: that's the attempt to do the first-run.
# 20:12:31 y_morin mingwandroid: And if I click "Retry": http://ymorin.is-a-geek.org/download/tmp/msys2-fail-retry.png
# 20:12:54 y_morin mingwandroid: Yup, you got in in the middle.
# 20:13:06 y_morin mingwandroid: I can copy-paste the failure details if you want.
# 20:13:52 y_morin mingwandroid: http://code.bulix.org/btrc7j-86969?raw
# 20:14:27 mingwandroid y_morin: yup, same as I get on Arch Linux.
# 20:15:11 y_morin mingwandroid: OK, I'm not the only one, then. You neither! :-)
# 20:16:30 y_morin Well, when it was "almost working", the Cygwin setup was OK, except for a hung bash at the end. If I killed it, and run cygwin's bash manually afterwards, it was working, as much as I recall.
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