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# 01:05:30 bhundven aneyman__: doing a build of arm-multilib-linux-uclibcgnueabi
# 01:09:19 aneyman__ ok, and?
# 01:09:29 aneyman__ it takes awhile ;)
# 01:10:48 aneyman__ and as the commit states, it lacks threads and anything that depends on them
# 01:11:11 aneyman__ there are, like, 28 multilib variants AFAIR
# 01:26:56 bhundven :)
# 01:27:20 bhundven yea, yann and I spoke of the many permutations of arm multilib back in 2012 or 2013.
# 01:28:03 bhundven yea, this build is definitely going to take a bit
# 01:28:08 bhundven pass-2
# 01:28:12 bhundven currently
# 01:42:14 aneyman__ frankly, I don't quite understand arm-gcc developers who decided on this all-or-nothing multilib list
# 01:42:45 aneyman__ why not follow other architectures which have a set of allowed multilib variants and allow any selection from that set
# 01:43:49 aneyman__ and because of that we have no way but to also include thumb v1 variant, which does not support threading in any of the libc variants
# 01:44:32 aneyman__ or for that matter, armv8 which is not yet supported by uclibc-ng
# 02:16:23 bhundven yea
# 02:16:31 bhundven well, it's open-source :)
# 02:16:53 bhundven make a patch, send it to the patches@gcc.gnu.org
# 02:16:59 bhundven mailing list
# 02:26:38 aneyman__ afaiu, a few people did that but arm-gcc maintainer was adamant
# 02:27:21 aneyman__ but he seems to yield a bit now that the m-profile arm does allow specification of an exact set of multilibs ;)
# 02:31:13 bhundven nice
# 02:31:43 bhundven 86min in so far on final gcc
# 02:32:03 bhundven I'm not too keen on having that in the travis-ci test
# 02:32:11 bhundven ;)
# 02:40:52 bhundven https://pastebin.osuosl.org/39296/
# 02:40:53 bhundven lol
# 02:41:03 bhundven *cries*
# 02:42:23 bhundven aneyman__: I guess, one more question
# 02:42:32 bhundven for the target libs and tools
# 02:42:41 bhundven does it build one for each multilib?
# 02:47:08 aneyman__ no, not yet
# 02:47:10 aneyman__ just the default
# 02:47:29 aneyman__ this is something I wanted to discuss after integrating the base framework
# 02:47:48 aneyman__ it is fairly easy to do with the common iterator implemented in scripts/functions
# 02:48:31 aneyman__ but it has to be done in each lib/tool separately
# 02:48:56 aneyman__ because some of them, similar to avr-libc or newlib, may be aware of multilibs already
# 02:49:47 aneyman__ lol, told ya - 28 multilibs :)
# 02:50:43 aneyman__ but it builds them just fine :) I guess most people don't rebuild their toolchains twice a day
# 02:52:03 aneyman__ would've been *much, much* worse if the threading was supported for all variants and we had to compile libstdc++
# 02:52:45 aneyman__ and *mwaha-ha-ha* (evil laugh) use glibc, that takes 5 minutes per variant :)
# 02:54:20 bhundven *facepalm*
# 02:55:16 bhundven 5 people complain about multilib not being supported, a multiplier of the few that wanted it complain on not being able to specify specific targets...
# 02:55:51 bhundven ...it's my formula for "to support a feature or not"
# 02:56:41 bhundven X=5, X^3 (complainers)
# 02:57:59 bhundven so, final compilation time: 110 minutes and 10 seconds
# 02:58:07 bhundven gesh
# 03:03:33 bhundven aneyman__: so the problem with bumping uclibc-ng before this patchset is that you'd have to rebase -i to nuke the obstack-free patch?
# 03:09:33 aneyman__ not surprised, but hey, if more people dislike it, more people will complain to gcc and maybe one day we'll get a --with-multilib-list for a-profile/r-profile ARMs as well
# 03:10:21 aneyman__ no, just that I wanted to try rebuilding all uclibc-ng based samples
# 03:10:39 bhundven ok
# 03:10:42 aneyman__ because there may be other changes in 1.0.14 aside from obstack_free fix
# 03:10:47 bhundven right
# 03:11:18 bhundven so here are my to problems, before I keep going through all these patches to find specific issues.
# 03:11:24 bhundven s/to/two/
# 03:11:54 aneyman__ what? we have a spell-checker/grammar-nazi bot here? :)
# 03:12:07 bhundven 1) there are a *LOT* of patches for one PR. Some of them have nothing to do with multilib, they just fix other unrelated issues.
# 03:12:21 bhundven (hehe, we've had ctngbot around for a while)
# 03:13:07 bhundven 2) going forward, this is going to make testing crosstool-ng a PITA. We really need to focus after 1.23 on testing and finding a better solution for CI
# 03:13:24 aneyman__ https://github.com/crosstool-ng/crosstool-ng/pull/383/commits/cf96a697c8b41e5dcfb5f5d304cd39269b7abf5d
# 03:13:56 aneyman__ I don't see anything aside from that (which fixed musl config.in - otherwise I wasn't able to select it in testing multilib)
# 03:14:16 aneyman__ you did notice that the multilib branch was based on the general "fix samples" branch, right?
# 03:14:24 bhundven yes
# 03:14:35 bhundven it was my complaint then, too.
# 03:15:01 aneyman__ well, I wish you reacted on the "fix samples" PR when it was posted, not 3 months later :P
# 03:15:14 bhundven life happens. I can't control that.
# 03:15:24 aneyman__ OTOH I couldn't test multilib if the base sample doesn't build
# 03:15:34 bhundven so many "would'a, could'a, should'a"
# 03:15:43 aneyman__ so I needed to fix the baseline first
# 03:15:46 bhundven right
# 03:16:19 aneyman__ I am not blaming, just explaining why one huge branch ended up on top of another not-so-small branch
# 03:16:49 bhundven it's hard. and really... this is my "first rodeo" as far as maintaining goes.
# 03:16:57 bhundven it's been an adventure
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# 03:18:38 aneyman__ I'd suggest you first review the generic "fix baseline" branch
# 03:18:50 aneyman__ it's smaller and less controversial, I guess
# 03:19:32 aneyman__ if needed, I can then rebase the multilib (but if you don't merge anything in between, it shouldn't even need rebasing if I understand Git's architecture correctly)
# 03:21:38 bhundven I'm looking at your tree, which is the 'fix baseline' branch?
# 03:25:09 bhundven hehe
# 03:25:10 bhundven https://github.com/crosstool-ng/crosstool-ng/pull/383/commits/cc7f7db7676b828ec3f75cea6463e62f44d1c519
# 03:25:32 bhundven aneyman__: now you know why I lean on mingwandroid for mingw-w64?
# 03:26:00 bhundven on top of the fact that his is a contributor to mingw and msys2
# 03:28:16 aneyman__ https://github.com/crosstool-ng/crosstool-ng/pull/373
# 03:28:24 aneyman__ is the "unbreak samples" branch
# 03:28:33 bhundven ah
# 03:28:59 aneyman__ as to MinGWizard comment, heh, I did discuss this particular bug with mingwandroid on IRC
# 03:29:08 bhundven hehe
# 03:29:13 bhundven :D
# 03:29:23 aneyman__ he didn't have any immediate suggestions so he agreed with marking it borked for now
# 03:29:34 bhundven I got winderz10 on a vm, but I can't get anything to work right on it.
# 03:29:42 bhundven go figure
# 03:30:27 aneyman__ I don't use win except for gaming ;)
# 03:30:45 bhundven (all the games I play work perfectly on mac os x)
# 03:31:02 bhundven (but don't tell anyone else that) >.> <.< oh wait...
# 03:31:08 bhundven :D
# 03:32:12 bhundven aneyman__: ok, let's do the uclibc fix branch first, then the multilib branch.
# 03:32:28 bhundven honestly, you did a ton of work on this!!!
# 03:33:03 aneyman__ what is uclibc fix branch?
# 03:33:09 bhundven 373
# 03:33:25 bhundven "unbreak samples"
# 03:33:33 aneyman__ ah, it's more than uclibc fix :)
# 03:33:38 bhundven for sure
# 03:33:46 aneyman__ uclibc is just one item on that list
# 03:34:10 bhundven I couldn't tell you why I typed it that way
# 03:34:55 bhundven done
# 03:35:31 bhundven looks like you do have to rebase the multilib branch. I don't think github is smart enough to figure it out
# 03:35:54 aneyman__ ok, will do once I get home
# 03:36:12 bhundven cool. I'm still reviewing stuff anyways. But I did look at those and they look good.
# 03:36:13 aneyman__ I am still @work and I ran out of desk space to put my laptop :)
# 03:36:59 aneyman__ have 7 target machines, build host, PXE/console host + workstation on or under my desk :)
# 03:37:14 bhundven nice
# 03:37:27 aneyman__ I am seriously considering adding a ceiling mount for putting them :)
# 03:37:47 bhundven I used to have a big peice of plywood with my boards on it
# 03:37:57 bhundven easier to move around. keep cables clean
# 03:38:04 aneyman__ we are close to a release, so there's a lot of "little polishing here and there" things
# 03:38:11 aneyman__ I thought about doing something like that
# 03:38:46 aneyman__ maybe in summer when my family is going back to Russia for two months :)
# 03:39:31 bhundven yup. there are still little stupid bugs, like the gnugo bug and a few that jasmin-j has been waiting for me to merge
# 03:39:49 bhundven I should have wrote that like:
# 03:39:54 bhundven yup. there are still little stupid bugs, like the gnugo bug
# 03:40:07 bhundven and I still need to merge a few that jasmin-j has
# 03:40:08 bhundven been waiting for
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# 03:50:02 aneyman__ ok, time to go home
# 03:50:15 aneyman__ I'll post a rebase for multilib later tonight
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# 05:31:57 bhundven aneyman__: ok. I'll check that out in the morning.
# 06:29:41 dummys enunes: here is the full error
# 06:29:43 dummys https://gist.github.com/dummys/f43512cf97a2322785888d5400dfdb5f
# 06:29:46 dummys with the .config
# 06:30:01 dummys and I get the same error on every profile for arml I tried
# 06:30:23 dummys tested these two: [G..] arm-unknown-eabi
# 06:30:25 dummys [G..] arm-unknown-linux-gnueabi
# 06:30:52 dummys really weird that it happend on every toolchain, for me it's more a problem of the core
# 06:30:56 dummys of the version of the gcc
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# 16:22:32 dummys enunes:
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# 16:39:18 bhundven dummys: what distro/OS are you building on?
# 16:43:24 bhundven coffeeholic_: the gdb patch to fix the expat issue is in master now. Try syncing from git and try again with static toolchain
# 16:54:30 enunes hey bhundven , nice to see you back
# 16:54:38 bhundven :)
# 16:55:03 enunes dummys: that config is a little weird, it uses gcc 5.2.0 but 5.2.0 is not available in commit d7339f5 shown by your error
# 16:55:28 dummys bhundven: arch
# 16:55:51 bhundven dummys: ok. Could you also post the full build.log somewhere?
# 16:56:15 dummys I just do ct-ng build thatsall
# 16:56:27 dummys ok let me try on another arch, wait
# 16:56:56 bhundven dummys: sure, I understand. The build.log shows us a little more about the environment of the build and the details of where in the build it fails.
# 16:57:09 dummys ok wait
# 16:57:20 enunes dummys: I'll try to reproduce the error with stable 1.22.0 which has gcc 5.2.0
# 16:57:51 dummys which distro?
# 16:57:57 bhundven enunes: the log he posted to gist was with 1.22
# 16:58:04 bhundven :)
# 16:58:18 enunes actually it says '/usr/share/doc/crosstool-ng/crosstool-ng-1.22.0-126-gd7339f5/'
# 16:58:28 bhundven oh, right
# 16:59:02 bhundven dummys: is that an older version or did you clone from github, and switch to the 1.22 branch?
# 17:02:36 dummys ok trying with this one: arm-unknown-eabi
# 17:03:07 dummys I use the version from ARch AUR repo
# 17:03:22 enunes dummys: I'm on ubuntu right now, but at my main machine I use Arch too
# 17:03:30 bhundven dummys: I suggest downloading the released version
# 17:03:39 bhundven dummys: aur can lag behind
# 17:03:52 aneyman__ bhundven: tried building all uclibc-ng samples on top of multilib, everything built fine
# 17:04:14 bhundven aneyman__: cool. I'm just doing some maintenance on my local build box
# 17:04:27 aneyman__ I'd still suggest to pick up multilib first if possible, as it is a bigger pain to re-test :)
# 17:05:35 bhundven sure
# 17:05:44 dummys ok wait i'm trying again with crosstool-ng-git
# 17:05:59 dummys crosstool-ng-git-1:1.22.0.r146.gcd39285-1
# 17:06:07 dummys this exact version
# 17:06:26 bhundven dummys: I would suggest this:
# 17:06:44 bhundven git clone https://github.com/crosstool-ng/crosstool-ng
# 17:06:49 bhundven cd crosstool-ng
# 17:07:08 bhundven git checkout -b 1.22 1.22
# 17:07:19 bhundven will be the latest in the 1.22 branch
# 17:07:59 dummys yup but it's better to fix the arch problem
# 17:08:07 dummys then people will have a good one too no ?
# 17:08:22 bhundven or just download the released version of 1.22: http://crosstool-ng.org/download/crosstool-ng/crosstool-ng-1.22.0.tar.bz2
# 17:08:26 dummys i'm trying again, if not working, then I will report on the aur page
# 17:08:49 dummys -> $ cower -s crosstool 1 ↵
# 17:08:51 dummys aur/crosstool-ng 1.22.0-1 (80, 0.72)
# 17:08:53 dummys Versatile (cross-)toolchain generator
# 17:08:55 dummys tried both
# 17:08:59 dummys it's the 1.22 latest right
# 17:09:24 dummys didn't do a diff though
# 17:09:27 bhundven well, 1.22 is the "latest release", but we try to keep the master branch in git stable and usable.
# 17:09:53 bhundven and we are working on getting 1.23 out the door this weekend
# 17:10:20 dummys oh sweet
# 17:11:48 dummys that's cool because your building tool is using all my cores
# 17:11:53 dummys :)
# 17:12:06 bhundven although, the way things are looking... it might be delayed to early next week.
# 17:12:09 dummys I saw too many software that never use all the cores
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# 17:17:09 dummys ok gentleman
# 17:17:14 dummys same problem
# 17:17:19 dummys on another arch install ...
# 17:18:26 dummys log incoming enunes
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# 17:23:29 bhundven aneyman__: have you tried any cross-canadian builds?
# 17:24:05 dummys internal server error on bpaste for the log loool
# 17:25:14 aneyman__ only the one we have in the samples that's currently working
# 17:25:38 aneyman__ i686-w32 to nios2-elf
# 17:25:47 bhundven ok, I just wanted to make sure that was tested :)
# 17:26:06 aneyman__ well, I think we should have more cross-canadian samples :)
# 17:26:14 bhundven indeed!
# 17:26:51 dummys https://ptpb.pw/fI3a
# 17:26:52 aneyman__ thing is, cross-canadian samples that I may be interested in preparing/maintaining are not supported yet
# 17:26:53 dummys there it is
# 17:27:03 dummys bhundven: i will now test with your version
# 17:27:13 bhundven dummys: thanks!
# 17:27:49 aneyman__ another group in our company uses a convoluted proprietary script to create cross-toolchains targeting *-lynxos
# 17:28:00 aneyman__ ct-ng does not support that target (yet :))
# 17:28:23 bhundven aneyman__: I know that mingwandroid was also working on supporting the *-darwin target
# 17:28:40 bhundven or maybe that was diorcety
# 17:29:10 dummys bhundven: your checkout command did not work
# 17:29:19 dummys -> $ git checkout -b 1.22 1.22
# 17:29:21 dummys fatal: Cannot update paths and switch to branch '1.22' at the same time.
# 17:29:23 dummys Did you intend to checkout '1.22' which can not be resolved as commit?
# 17:29:33 bhundven dummys: git checkout 1.22
# 17:29:37 bhundven might be the same
# 17:29:53 dummys yep
# 17:29:59 dummys just want to be sure
# 17:30:37 bhundven I think the first should have been: git checkout -b 1.22 origin/1.22
# 17:30:46 bhundven I always forget to specify the remote
# 17:31:25 bhundven http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/914AAOSwoudW8YIh/s-l300.jpg
# 17:33:46 dummys ok launched with your version
# 17:33:48 dummys will see
# 17:34:09 dummys do I need to do the checkout ?
# 17:34:14 dummys i've done checkout -b 1.22
# 17:34:17 dummys it's ok you think
# 17:34:34 bhundven that would be the same as: git checkout -b 1.22 master
# 17:34:44 bhundven so that is wrong if you want to test 1.22
# 17:34:48 dummys ok
# 17:35:21 bhundven bhundven@redbox:~/crosstool-ng$ git checkout -b 1.22 origin/1.22
# 17:35:22 bhundven Branch 1.22 set up to track remote branch 1.22 from origin.
# 17:35:22 bhundven Switched to a new branch '1.22'
# 17:35:27 bhundven worked for me
# 17:36:53 dummys ok build relaunched
# 17:36:55 dummys will see
# 17:37:02 dummys with exacte same command as yours
# 17:37:40 bhundven aneyman__: it's funny going through the commits and seeing the ones I did. Pft, Like I need to review those! :P
# 17:38:15 dummys the version on arch aur is:
# 17:38:17 dummys commit cd39285ff8247ad4b69e3143bfd16a47c0743fb0
# 17:38:19 dummys Merge: cd6274d 2162cbb
# 17:38:21 dummys Author: Bryan Hundven
# 17:38:23 dummys Date: Thu May 12 20:34:42 2016 -0700
# 17:38:25 dummys Merge pull request #373 from stilor/unbreak-ppc-uclibc
# 17:38:27 dummys
# 17:38:29 dummys Unbreak samples
# 17:38:36 dummys is this not the latest one ?
# 17:38:42 bhundven dummys: then that is latest from git, not 1.22
# 17:38:57 bhundven I forget who the maintainer of that is.. enunes ?
# 17:39:16 dummys so it's not "stable" ?
# 17:39:52 bhundven it is latest development. same as just building from the git clone without checking out a branch
# 17:40:03 bhundven what will be 1.23
# 17:40:08 dummys oh ok
# 17:40:15 bhundven which, great! test it!
# 17:40:21 dummys but 1.22-0.1
# 17:40:25 bhundven if you have problems then we can fix it easier
# 17:40:32 dummys is also in the aur
# 17:40:36 dummys and is also not working lol
# 17:41:08 bhundven dummys: so the "latest" does not work is what you're saying?
# 17:41:17 dummys yes
# 17:41:19 bhundven ok
# 17:41:25 dummys both not working on my 2 arches
# 17:41:44 dummys see this : https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/crosstool-ng/
# 17:41:52 dummys https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/crosstool-ng-git
# 17:41:58 bhundven enunes: do you maintain the arch crosstool-ng packages?
# 17:41:59 dummys both of it is not working right now
# 17:42:03 dummys no it's bvalle
# 17:42:12 dummys and intelfx
# 17:46:01 coffeeholic_ Thanks, bhundven :-)
# 17:48:38 dummys ohhhhh bhundven
# 17:48:40 dummys same error bro
# 17:48:45 dummys you will have some work :D
# 17:49:05 dummys and exactly with your version
# 17:49:21 dummys I think I didn't need to past it, it's the same errror
# 17:49:33 dummys tell me what you need for debug though
# 17:49:49 dummys toolchain is : arm-unknown-eabi
# 17:55:37 dummys I need to go bhundven, tell me if you need other info to debug
# 17:55:47 dummys all is in my ptpb paste
# 18:06:23 aneyman__ bhundven: heh, I picked up mingwandroid's branch and he picked up yours? it came full cycle :)
# 18:06:35 bhundven :)
# 18:06:49 aneyman__ bhundven: I'll address the comments in the afternoon, need to finish something @work
# 18:07:09 dummys didyou think why it didnt work bhundven?
# 18:07:23 bhundven dummys: I'm setting up an arch vm
# 18:07:25 bhundven I'll test
# 18:07:40 dummys oh ok
# 18:14:43 dummys My patchset is from yesterday
# 18:14:52 dummys didnt upgraded today
# 18:22:19 bhundven dummys: my build is running, but will take a while
# 18:23:33 bhundven dummys: I'm doing arm-unknown-eabi first, as it builds the fastest.
# 18:39:46 bhundven dummys: I think I see the problem
# 18:40:05 bhundven gcc on arch is 6.1
# 18:40:13 bhundven it's a little bit more picky
# 18:41:31 bhundven it doesn't seem to like some code in gcc-5.3.0
# 18:47:01 bhundven https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=69959
# 18:52:33 bhundven I'm working to backport that patch in ct-ng now
# 19:04:24 enunes dummys: back now
# 19:04:45 enunes dummys: your .config built just fine here, so it should be something on your host
# 19:05:38 enunes bhundven: no I don't maintain the aur crosstool-ng in Arch, but I have warned the maintainer a couple of times on new version releases
# 19:06:28 bhundven enunes: I'm about to merge the fix, but running a build test first.
# 19:08:25 enunes what fix?
# 19:11:07 bhundven 11:47 <@bhundven> https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=69959
# 19:11:43 bhundven which, the build now finishes instead of breaking on the gperf issue
# 19:12:19 bhundven https://github.com/crosstool-ng/crosstool-ng/pull/392
# 19:12:30 bhundven dummys: ^^^ fix is there
# 19:13:41 bhundven I'm gonna let the CI do it's thing and merge after it's done
# 19:14:15 bhundven enunes: does that make sense?
# 19:14:23 enunes oh, I get it now. makes sense, Arch is in gcc 6
# 19:14:28 bhundven :D
# 19:14:38 enunes and I haven't seen a fail with his config here in this older Ubuntu
# 19:14:44 bhundven right
# 19:14:50 bhundven and debian is still using 5.3
# 19:14:57 bhundven (which is what I use)
# 19:15:04 bhundven (even in sid)
# 19:15:36 bhundven although I could install gcc-6, but pft, why?
# 19:16:12 enunes bhundven: to catch these bugs before dummys :)
# 19:16:28 bhundven you mean, you want me to be proactive? :D
# 19:16:44 bhundven jk
# 19:17:36 bhundven I wish travis-ci let you specify using archlinux
# 19:17:50 bhundven but that would double the tests ran...
# 19:18:02 bhundven we really need to come up with a better solution for CI
# 19:18:24 bhundven my build on archlinux completed
# 19:19:37 enunes yeah CI is complicated, full of trade-offs
# 19:20:33 bhundven our current vector is to get a good mix of samples without taking them all, but it runs on ubuntu 14
# 19:20:57 bhundven so that doesn't cover our arch/gentoo friends
# 19:22:10 bhundven but from my experience... working with secure embedded applications, you typically want to run on known stable/secure. So I would have thought that what we have is "good enough"
# 19:24:26 enunes well yeah I can say for my current company, every toolchain generated by crosstool-ng is generated in a VM provisioned for this, which happens to also be Ubuntu 14
# 19:26:11 dummys cant test now, im in bar
# 19:27:12 bhundven heh
# 19:27:44 bhundven dummys: the build with that patch worked in my archlinux vm. It's currently testing in CI and hasn't merged yet. So it will be an hour or so
# 19:28:17 bhundven and the travis-ci cache was borked, so I had to stop the test, wipe the cache, and start over :(
# 19:29:23 bhundven enunes: https://github.com/mikkeloscar/arch-travis
# 19:40:02 enunes bhundven: cool, well I even as an Arch user am not sure if it would be so worth it, for the additional CI time I think I'd prefer to have more targets or versions tested
# 19:41:12 enunes I almost added avr as a target but I didn't want to increase CI time :P
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