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| # 08:54:08 | HcE | cpackham: the not-yet tag is for stuff you don't plan to include in 1.26? |
| # 09:04:27 | milkylainen | you mean like mpfr? |
| # 09:14:06 | HcE | milestone tag |
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| # 09:21:57 | cpackham | Yeah. Unless there is a compelling reason to include it |
| # 09:22:44 | cpackham | I was umming and ahhing about the binutils bump but the performance regression kind of sold me on leaving it out |
| # 09:23:36 | HcE | I'll test it locally and see how it behaves. I only test for various ARM targets, building on x86_64 Linux hosts. |
| # 09:23:37 | cpackham | Also gives a chance for upstream binutils to fix it so we can carry the fix (assuming there is one) |
| # 09:23:52 | HcE | Might not be a trivial fix, and they seldom do dotreleases. |
| # 09:27:02 | HcE | Would love a real threaded linker option, but unsure if lld is there yet. |
| # 09:28:25 | cpackham | looks like there was a build failure for armv6-nommu-linux-uclibcgnueabi anyway |
| # 09:28:43 | cpackham | I've also got a series for gold |
| # 09:29:08 | cpackham | which I thought had some improvements over bfd |
| # 09:30:21 | HcE | [ERROR] collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status |
| # 09:31:56 | milkylainen | does ct-ng have a bunch of users on nommu v6 for new toolchains these days? |
| # 09:32:01 | milkylainen | Just curious. |
| # 09:35:31 | cpackham | hard to measure |
| # 09:36:16 | cpackham | I did think some of the older RPi-Ws use it but I could be wrong |
| # 09:39:39 | milkylainen | The picos you mean? |
| # 09:40:30 | milkylainen | Hmm. |
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| # 13:32:19 | HcE | Hmm, cross GDB didn't build for 32-bit ARM for me using an old Linux kernel, had to dip down to 12.x release (from 13.1). Probably some dependency to kernel version. |
| # 13:32:34 | HcE | I'm building against Linux 3.4.113 kernerl |
| # 13:32:36 | HcE | *kernel |
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| # 15:47:50 | HcE | Hmmm, libcrypt has gone into legacy and must be explicit enabled. The rest of Linux world is not ready for that :D |
| # 16:31:28 | milkylainen | HcE: I think most things should be fine. |
| # 16:31:52 | milkylainen | It's the occasional embedded product that'll trip over it until they realize what's gone. |
| # 16:32:11 | milkylainen | Some nice knobs in crosstool-ng and a good explanation should suffice. |
| # 16:33:56 | milkylainen | Chris add the aformentioned knob a week or two ago. |
| # 19:14:49 | HcE | Yes, I noticed, re-building with it enabled |
| # 19:15:17 | HcE | sysvinit (very old stuff) and Linux-PAM wasn't too happy about missing libcrypt |
| # 19:23:12 | milkylainen | I don't know when the glibc folks plan to drop it altogether. I think the idea is to move to an external library like libxcrypt. And I don't think crosstool-ng should provide it either for the "toolchain lib-copy embedded build env"-style usages. They have to make their own provisions in the future. |
| # 19:24:21 | milkylainen | HcE: btw. You were building what if I may ask? Just curious. |
| # 19:24:38 | milkylainen | Embedded stuff? |
| # 20:18:09 | HcE | Yes, embedded devices. The sysvinit stuff will hopefully EoL within reasonable time, I think bumping them to use GCC 13 and glibc 2.38 is fine as an end station. |
| # 20:18:47 | HcE | Linux-PAM probably just need an update to 1.5.0, haven't checked changes, but I would assume Linux-PAM is on top of moving away from libcrypt |
| # 20:19:08 | HcE | And building something like libxcrypt and bundle is fully feasible, we create our OS from scratch. |
| # 20:28:51 | milkylainen | Mmm. I mostly use bsd style init. But it's a mashup. I usually write most of it myself. |
| # 20:29:16 | HcE | We transitioned to systemd |
| # 20:30:22 | milkylainen | Yeah. I guess I should to. |
| # 20:30:44 | milkylainen | I find some obscure things to be easier to get a grasp on once I do it myself. |
| # 20:31:24 | milkylainen | It's increasingly getting difficult living without systemd. Even for embedded. |
| # 20:31:56 | milkylainen | Like they're updating their udev interfaces and programs start to get dependent on new stuff. Without any real alternatives. |
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| # 20:48:46 | HcE | systemd is a bit complex at first, but once you go all in, it is quite nice IMHO. |
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| # 23:30:29 | cpackham | @HCE, @milkylainen if you have a suggestion about the default setting for the libcrypt thing now will be a good time to suggest it. |
| # 23:31:01 | cpackham | I went with defaulting to off because in the systems I work with we'll just switch to libxcrypt when we update to that glibc version. |